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  • I'm an NTJ, and I feel more in common with the NTPs than the STJs.

    7 18.42%
  • I'm an NTJ, and I feel equally in common with both.

    4 10.53%
  • I'm an NTJ, and I feel more in common with the STJs than the NTPs.

    2 5.26%
  • I'm an NTP, and I feel more in common with the STPs than the NTJs.

    6 15.79%
  • I'm an NTP, and I feel equally in common with both.

    5 13.16%
  • I'm an NTP, and I feel more in common with the NTJs than the STPs.

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    Question NTPs and NTJs: Do you feel more in common with each other, or with STPs and STJs?

    NTPs: Do you feel more in common with the NTs on the other side of the tracks, or your STP brothers and sisters?

    NTJs: Same question to you, but with regards to NTPs and STJs...









    And here's the NF version of the same question...
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    I do see similarities when I meet STP's - freewheeling, flexible, go-with-the-flow, calm, independent, a bit of a "rebel" at times (the whole "iconoclast" thing), but the way that other NT's think (NTJ's included) is just so much more alike. When I'm with one of my STP friends, it's very relaxed, crazy, and fun - in a "let's go do something we've never done before" kind of way. When I'm with one of my NTJ friends, it's more structured, intellectual, somewhat intense, but also fun in a "did you know that in 17th century France.......?" kind of way. Also, with NTJ's (it's both fun and annoying at the same time), it sometimes feels like the conversation is a big chess match.

    They're both lots of fun, but in very different ways. I would say I feel closer to NTJ's, however.
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    Do NTs feel closeness?

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTPness View Post
    I do see similarities when I meet STP's - freewheeling, flexible, go-with-the-flow, calm, independent, a bit of a "rebel" at times (the whole "iconoclast" thing), but the way that other NT's think (NTJ's included) is just so much more alike. When I'm with one of my STP friends, it's very relaxed, crazy, and fun - in a "let's go do something we've never done before" kind of way. When I'm with one of my NTJ friends, it's more structured, intellectual, somewhat intense, but also fun in a "did you know that in 17th century France.......?" kind of way. Also, with NTJ's (it's both fun and annoying at the same time), it sometimes feels like the conversation is a big chess match.

    They're both lots of fun, but in very different ways. I would say I feel closer to NTJ's, however.
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    Do NTs feel closeness?

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    I definitely feel closer to NFJs than any other personality set. We're in the same "space," and we like the same things, even if we're there for different reasons and because of different motivations.
    *You don't have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body.
    *Faith is the art of holding on to things your reason once accepted, despite your changing moods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usehername View Post
    I definitely feel closer to NFJs than any other personality set. We're in the same "space," and we like the same things, even if we're there for different reasons and because of different motivations.
    So you'd probably think NJ, NP, SJ, SP would be a better way to divide the types than Keirsey's method (NT, NF, SJ, SP)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    So you'd probably think NJ, NP, SJ, SP would be a better way to divide the types than Keirsey's method (NT, NF, SJ, SP)?
    I think it just depends on what you're describing and what your goals are. In terms of typing others and how they interact, I can see that Kiersey's method alerts you to roadblocks and priorities pretty effectively.

    I just think "beingness" is more in line with the CP method: Ni, Ne, Si, Se aka NJ, NP, SJ, SP.
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    I feel close to other TPs. We all approach life similarly. (Even ExTPs.)

    I have a lot of trouble reading NTJs sometimes, depending on how well-rounded they are. I just can't get my head around them -- Ni leads to elusive conclusions for me, and Te can seem severe. I need more of their reasoning process explained, even while I'm trying to make the leap with them.
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    I feel the most in common with NTPs, followed by NTJs, then STJs, and lastly STPs. Even though ISTPs share the same dominant function, the fact that they have auxilary Se (which is very weak in me) and SP temperament (whose mindset tends to be very different from my own) makes us feel like worlds apart sometimes. I strangely enough identify with STJs more. I have pretty strong Si for an N type. With NTJs, the functions are different but at least they are in the same temperament so share some of the same core values but take a different approach to things.
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    If you voted earlier in this thread, your vote unfortunately got erased.

    It would be greatly appreciated if you were to vote again.

    Thanks
    Last edited by Zarathustra; 12-29-2010 at 11:47 AM.

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