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    Senior Member tinkerbell's Avatar
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    Default ENTP's.....E's and I's

    Hey do any other ENTP's feel like the classify more as an I than an E?

    I know I'm an E type in that after a few days on my own I'm stir crazy for company and conversation but I do have a huge amount of I like tendancies, dont' like to do people too much, need a lot of time on my own to recharge my batteries, etc etc.

    When I test I test strongly E type not very blanaced, but I feel pretty Introspective....

    Anyone else with similar experiences. I sometimes think I'm a phoney E type....

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    Yes, actually it got better for me by learning more structure. The first time I was subjected to structure was when I choosed to study engineering. But not because of engineering but because of managing german bureaucracy, you need to for University. You have to collect a lot of information all by yourself and people dont put the infos somewhere in public, where you could easily get them. Then you have to keep up to a lot of deadlines and schedules, it's all crazy unecessary inhuman batshit, but you have to keep the pace, if you dont want to get under the wheels. Then I am working in administration now and that forced me to become a master of management and organization.

    It tho helped me to keep my ideas more at bay. Just yesterday I got out and put a book about 13 times back and forth into a shelf, because I wanted to read something up. It was always something different, but I am prone to get caught in dangerous loops, of unpacking things I just put away because I had another thought. It's equally in society, when I hang out with people they usually bore me to death. But sometimes you just need to hang out with them, like for example the family of my girlfriend. So first of all before I go to such a meeting I put away all my projects in my mind. I prepare myself before a meeting like that so I have nothing on my mind and can relax. And then when I am steer, I listen to people and try to converse and communicate, make jokes and even try to tell a long story all by myself !! It works, once you get the feeling and you get in the mood, you can go on for hours. If you tho are bored you just want to get away as quick as possible.

    In the daily routine I try to schedule my thinking aswell. When it's for example midtime lunch break I know that now I have to concentrate on the people there and nothing else, then when I get back I concentrate on the next thing, step by step.

    I couldnt live without people and I have a huge penchant and need for communication, you yourself have 3k posts, cant tell me you feel introverted
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    Hey Entropie,

    yea I know I'm not truely oober introverted, I ned conversation but too many people are intollerable - small numbers I'm better with. I totally suffer from pulling books out then thinking new ideas etc... One of the best books for ideas is the Art of Reading Sideways by Alan Fletcher which is clearly from a P type who just pasted lots of ideas and facts togehter into a uge beautifully designed book. Thought provoking in a huge way. Do the same thing even with art books too.

    Never experienced your structure thing but then happily work hard to tick boxes when I know i'm in a beauracratic process.


    I do still feel very I type at times....

    hmmm

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    Nope, I'm full blown E in every sense of the word. I speak my thoughts as they come up in my head, I get energized by new things rather than by things I already know, and if I go without human interaction for more then an hour or so I go mad.
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    I had wondered about that myself a little while ago...wondering if I was ENTP rather than INTP. I get hyped about sharing ideas and thoughts. My Ne and Ti are just about equal. However, if I'm not talking theories, speculating, or ideas than I really and seriously don't want to talk.

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    I feel the same way.
    I sometimes wonder if I'm an introvert, I believe that ENTPs look less extraverted than other times. I don't know why people assume that ENTPs are all energy optimistic talkative etc. I mean.. in my case.. I must be excited to be like that, and I get excited by new things, new ideas, interesting people (not new people, interesting people). I don't really care much about socializing, if it's not interesting. I mean yes...I go out, but I don't feel the need to go out if it'll be boring, same thing every day. I might as well stay home, read something, play a game whatever. Sometimes I leave parties early, go home and watch a movie/read/play a game/work. I'm not in the mood for people all the time.
    I introspective too.

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    tink: does alone time actually re-charge you though?

    I'm pretty withdrawn, introspective and totally happy in my own company but no matter how much I enjoy being alone without too much external stimulation it doesn't not recharge me, it can be neutral for a while but in time it will become draining and depressive, it will feel like I'm sinking. Naturally there are times I prefer to be alone because the company or activity I'm engaging in is boring or tiring but external things energising me and internal things draining me never changes.

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    I think too that as an entp you often need some sort of stimulation to become highly energetic at all. For example when working on a project at work or school, sometimes you put so much effort in it that it's almost unecessary, then again 90% of the other projects you have to do, you just get over with. Most often this kind of stimulation doesnt even make any sense to oneself, it's like that just now you are totally eager to do this thing. Sometimes it happens aswell when you hang out in a bar with friends and the mood is really good, you can fall into high energy mode and go on for like forever and dont notice when your friends are lieing on the floor, being totally tired and calling for mercy .

    I think largely this is influenced by the life situation you are in aswell. Some years ago when I didnt feel too good, I was for years in a more depressive mood; I can safely say that I am an E in that regards cause I largely depend on this external stimulation to get in the run. And what I mean here is basically mood and how you feel, my working abilities aint influenced by this, I can work like a machine even when totally depressed.

    Another thing I noticed, personally for me, tho I am a person that always tries to enlighten a group's mood and who is generally optimistic, I myself am very prone to depressive episodes. I do not know exactly, this may be a family thing. My mum, who I'ld type isfj had to see professional help because of depression and since I am together with my gf who is very emotionally reflective, I see in her reactions that I am kinda often kinda depressive. She doesnt like negative resonances at all and therefore she quickly jumps me and tells me, even getting angry that I am so depressive.

    It's strange cause I have in these moments not the feeling that I am depressive, I feel more like neutral, caught in the modus operandi, so in the mode of operation just switched on without emotion or anything.
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    It seems like there is a real mixed bag of E and I type behaviours going on.

    Kasper - I do think people LARGELY energies me unless they are stupid then I feel totally drained, I've increasingly got less patient with very dim people, where I have to wait for ages for them to catch up.... really quite teeth pulling, fortunately only a real problem at work.

    Guesswho - I take your point about socialising, unless it's interesting why bother... at this time of year it's relatives all the way - fortunately I get on well with them mostly. Very NT dominate

    Entpie - I think I can get mild low grade depressions but find short trips out really help. clinaical depression really is no joke, nor can you be cajoled out of it.

    It does seem ENTP's are not as E type as others or maybe it's how we look at the nature or E-ness.

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    I spend a lot of time alone, and yet I find it draining. I usually test about 50/50 on the E/I scale. Most people I know assume I'm an introvert. I think these things are not uncommon for ENTP's.
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