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    Oh so INTJs mess up things too.

    How strangely comforting to see one admit it.

    I'm sorry about this not working out for ya man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    Oh so INTJs mess up things too.

    How strangely comforting to see one admit it.
    No you.
    INTJ | 5w4 - Sp/Sx/So | 5-4-(9/1) | RLoEI | Melancholic-Choleric | Johari & Nohari

    This will not end well...
    But it will at least be poetic, I suppose...

    Hmm... But what if it does end well?
    Then I suppose it will be a different sort of poetry, a preferable sort...
    A sort I could become accustomed to...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmie Dearest View Post
    Oh so INTJs mess up things too.

    How strangely comforting to see one admit it.

    I'm sorry about this not working out for ya man.
    Is it uncommon for a INTJ to admit failure?

    I believed they are supposed to be objective. At least the big T doms.

    I had a comforting moment when i read her blog. She talked about feelings and all that. She seemed not so cold then. I tried to get into a conversation about it but she got all defensive. And then i screwed up.

    And No. Shes not inocent in this mess. she has failed big time to understand what i need. And it was not much either just single simple word would have done it.

    Nevermind.. i need to go on now. And strangely its releaving to talk about it. Perhaps i start a Mats on self destruct adventures blog one day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatsNorway View Post
    Is it uncommon for a INTJ to admit failure?

    I believed they are supposed to be objective. At least the big T doms.
    I agree, I've never understood the implication on this forum otherwise. Maybe it's also easier to admit you are lost emotionally vs. a well thought out discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elaur View Post
    I agree
    Too what?

    Err: no comply!
    /Need tea spoon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatsNorway View Post
    We were friends. Now we are "friends"

    My fault ofc but her friend managed to say that i should try harder.
    Read between the lines dummy. That means in the most basic words to make a move and don't just stand around chit chatting. This is not the movies; the hot chick doesn't make a move on you in real life just because you orbit her. Next time don't waste a girls time with lingering too long.

    My condolances; as I have been there too a long time ago. Its called being an AFC (or average frustrated chump)
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    Quote Originally Posted by spamtar View Post
    My condolances; as I have been there too a long time ago. Its called being an AFC (or average frustrated chump)
    Wow.

    You really are a walking, talking parrot of PUA, aren't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    This thread gives me headaches.
    It kind of released my headache somewhat. Except for the last few pages maybe, wonderful thread to read. First one ever to have me read it calmly through with sustained attention. Having no On Topic reply though. Even contains Norwegian and Icelandic, two of my favorite languages (I'm from The Netherlands by the way). Not a meaningful reply, as I said... I like OP's heartfelt entries. This thread confronts me with what point I am at with this myself... not quite near this (as yet).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Wow.

    You really are a walking, talking parrot of PUA, aren't you?
    Rrrrock, Polly wanna *close.

    Naw I am retired.

    My game is so rusty I would polly have a harder time at #closing than the OP at this stage. It would take me at least a couple months to get back up to speed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Llewellyn View Post
    It kind of released my headache somewhat. Except for the last few pages maybe, wonderful thread to read. First one ever to have me read it calmly through with sustained attention. Having no On Topic reply though. Even contains Norwegian and Icelandic, two of my favorite languages (I'm from The Netherlands by the way). Not a meaningful reply, as I said... I like OP's heartfelt entries. This thread confronts me with what point I am at with this myself... not quite near this (as yet).
    thanks.

    Im glad i know about the MBTI as it has helped me tremendously.


    "INTJ may, when functioning within an ineffective system, be extremely eager for change. This eagerness may lead them to expect or demand immediate change. When others around them are open to that change, this attitude can expedite improvements. However, the INTJ often fails to recognize when circumstances call for a more incremental approach to change.

    This is especially likely when the brake on the rate of change stems primarily from the emotional defenses of the other people in the system. The INTJ, prone to overlooking the importance of applying their systemic understanding to certain aspects of human systems, may fail to recognize that addressing the fears and apprehensions of relevant individuals is not simply a distraction from their strategy, but rather, itself an important – sometimes the most important – strategic consideration."


    The above quote basically confirms that i need to just chill... Considering that everyone was pushing me forward and that i have AD/HD makes it no surprise that we have had some bad conversations. When i succeed it is very nice tho as she liked to talk about feelings and such. I just need to cool down and let it happen by itself.

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