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    Quote Originally Posted by Moiety View Post
    What, you're saying I have a hard on for INTJs or something? I'm not complaining you guys are dicks, I'm pointing out how all these so called "awesome" characters are often evil guys. Where are the INTJs whose actions one can actually respect? And it's rhetorical really.
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    What about this guy? He seemed INTJ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Sherlock Holmes View Post

    What about this guy? He seemed INTJ.
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    So I gues you guys agree with that typing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moiety View Post
    What, you're saying I have a hard on for INTJs or something? I'm not complaining you guys are dicks, I'm pointing out how all these so called "awesome" characters are often evil guys. Where are the INTJs whose actions one can actually respect? And it's rhetorical really.
    I think that your respect or disdain for us is irrelevant. Not because we don't care, because, of course we do, but because it doesn't help. You guys like to voice opinions about how you cannot respect us; perhaps that is because it has been judged to be... unneccessary in analysing what we see in ourselves?

    I don't think you have a hard on for INTJs, but I do see a lot of ENFPs and INFJs coming into a lot of INTJ threads with the same set of recycled opinions. It's tiresome and the truth is unless you understand what we have a tendancy towards viewing inside ourselves and how we relate this to characterisations, which is basically efficiency and the need for the application of such whilst maintaining individuality (positive or negative as that may be) and a somewhat sarcastic wit, then you are going to find many of the INTJ descriptions unflattering because they aren't what you would value in yourself.

    I mean really, what this thread doesn't tell you is which characters are INTJ, but which characters INTJs see facets of themselves when they observe. So do ponder that we are a type who focus on seeing our worst traits in the most negative associations and carry it as a burden even as we do what we see as right regardless of our emergent nihilism.

    Also do remember that what you might see as 'not respectable' to us can be seen as an entirely positive association. Somewhat akin to being given lemons and making lemonade and having negative potential that can be turned to a positive purpose.

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    You're making a fuss about nothing, really.

    I think some I don't respect some of these guys, not because they use Ni Te (which has nothing inherently 'not respectable') but because the basis for their plotting are rarely "good" in a classical sense.

    And your first sentence "I think that your respect or disdain for us is irrelevant" is quite true, but you have to understand I'm not talking about INTJs, I'm talking about the characters. I wasn't trying to attack INTJs so much as cracking a joke and just pointing out the fact (provided you have the same definition of dick that I do).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moiety View Post
    You're making a fuss about nothing, really.

    I think some I don't respect some of these guys, not because they use Ni Te (which has nothing inherently 'not respectable') but because the basis for their plotting are rarely "good" in a classical sense.

    And your first sentence "I think that your respect or disdain for us is irrelevant" is quite true, but you have to understand I'm not talking about INTJs, I'm talking about the characters. I wasn't trying to attack INTJs so much as cracking a joke and just pointing out the fact (provided you have the same definition of dick that I do).
    I'm perfectly capable of making fusses where I deem such to be necessary or purposeful.

    I understand and was merely pointing out that pointing at things you view as negative traits in things that others associate with themselves will not be amusing or taken well by them. This happens frequently towards us.

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    "Basis"? "Dicks"?


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