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    Quote Originally Posted by CloudCuckooLander View Post
    Also, the conclusion that Ledger's Joker can't be ENTJ because he's "chaotic" is fallacious - chaos is not type-related, nor is it innately indicative of Ne. Ledger's Joker is a meticulous, forward-thinking planner, who plans everything he does down to the second (see: the opening heist), very much Te-Ni. He's a philosophical nihilist, but that does not at all contradict his ENTJness.
    You can also attribute those traits to Ne/Ti. Ne to brainstorm up ideas to cause dramatic mayhem, Ti to plan out all it's parts into a complete whole. Then he lets things loose without much directive influence. His auxiliary Fe works into his plans by really screwing with people's emotions/social mores; I'm thinking of his monologue about the death of a civilian vs. death of many soldiers as they happen "according to plan."

    Though I do see how you see him as ENTJ.

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    OH! I almost forgot...



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    Oh, and... The Major loves war.

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    You want the red pill, or the blue pill?
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    I figured Ross was the ENTP, if anyone.


    But then.. I've never actually watched Friends. How would I even know that? No sir.. not me. I know nothing about Friends.

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    Chandler was an extroverting INFJ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    I figured Ross was the ENTP, if anyone.
    Ross was either INFP or ISFJ. Not entirely sure which. One more addition though:



    I've been going over whether Jack is ESTP or ENTP; I think he's N. On the one hand, he is a master of reading physical cues to see how far to push (Se specialty), but on the other, he does show abundant Ne in his speeches -- they're all weird, rambling affairs; such as when he convinced the brethren court to attack using an argument about... cuttlefish, of all fucking things. That, and his plans show Ne, such as when he used the upturned boat as a makeshift sub (I figure an ESTP would have most likely used it the way it was intended to be used).
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    If Chandler were not ENTP I'd probably give him ESFJ with strong Ne.
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    ^ I think Chandler is ENTP also. Ross is sooo ISFJ - not INFP.
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