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    Quote Originally Posted by freeeekyyy View Post
    I think romantically, ENTJs would be better fit with INTPs. Both are dominant thinkers and intuitive, but with orientation reversed.
    Shadow fascination! Almost narcissistic if you think about it.

    Unless both these types have well developed Fe and Fi, it's not going to work. Meltdown of inferior feeling functions are not a pretty sight.

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    Because it follows the important conventions of MBTI relationship advice:

    The perceiving function the same (N), the rest of the functions the opposite (all but E, in this case).

    According to those rules, the best mate for an ENTJ is an INFP, and I guess it was an ENFP that caught their interest instead. It's not a hard rule, but the perceiving function rule is almost always true. But...

    Yeah. So...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moiety View Post
    Ditto.


    Arcligh, you need to read about NLP.
    I am practicing EFT myself.. NLP uses EFT at times.. But do you care to elaborate why? Its great to tell me what I need, and I am open to suggestion. But you are going to have to sell me something, before I just take your word for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphor View Post
    Shadow fascination! Almost narcissistic if you think about it.

    Unless both these types have well developed Fe and Fi, it's not going to work. Meltdown of inferior feeling functions are not a pretty sight.
    The opposites attract colloquialism may sound good in theory but realistically it's horrible. I honestly wonder if it was created to justify pairings in which the two people only had sexual lust in common. According to one study that I came into contact with, the majority of successful relationships involve partners who share all but one letter, with N being the most important, followed by partners who share every one of the four letters. The frequency of successful relationships then decreases gradually until opposite types relationships are placed dead last. I also tend to find myself agreeing with the below three pages:

    http://www.entjpersonality.info/2010...tionships.html
    http://tastyresearch.com/2007/08/25/...ilar-partners/
    http://www.divorceandfamilylawblog.c...t-does-it.html

    That said, ENTJs and ENFPs make brilliant friends since their shared Intuitive functions mean that they hold a large amount of the same values, such as creativity and imagination, in high regard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freeeekyyy View Post
    I think romantically, ENTJs would be better fit with INTPs. Both are dominant thinkers and intuitive, but with orientation reversed. ENFPs, on the other hand, are best fit with INFJs and INTJs.
    I would definitely not fit with an INTP. We'd drive each other crazy. I don't take well criticism from INTPs, and believe me they do dish out a lot of that (perhaps I deserve it - I don't know). I generally prefer feeling types, they give some spaz to the relationship.
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    yeah, Te and Fi.

    i recently realized a good family friend of mine (she's the mom in the family, her daughter being around my age (maybe 23 or something)) - is an ENTJ, and we get along well. we're both curious about everything... plus she's hella curious about everything to do with people and i like talking about myself, so that works out.

    my mom (ESFJ) sometimes jokingly calls her "the interrogator" and gets really frustrated with her for it sometimes, but i dunno, it doesn't bother me. she's up front and easy to talk with. i think her sense of humor is kind of offensive to some people but i find it entertaining. she and my INTP dad get along great, too - they were med school pals. not that i never get annoyed with her, but as far as people go, i'd rather be stuck in an elevator with her over a lot of other people.

    Quote Originally Posted by freeeekyyy
    ENFPs, on the other hand, are best fit with INFJs and INTJs.
    eh. i get along very well with INTJs and ENFJs, but not so much INFJs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    eh. i get along very well with INTJs and ENFJs, but not so much INFJs.
    Well, of course I'm speaking generally. It doesn't necessarily apply on an individual level. While my ideal mate is an ENFP, or failing that, an ENTP, the best way to go about finding somebody isn't to go by type, but to just meet somebody you like, get to know them, and then once you do know their type, use the information you know about that type to improve your interactions with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arclight View Post
    I am practicing EFT myself.. NLP uses EFT at times.. But do you care to elaborate why? Its great to tell me what I need, and I am open to suggestion. But you are going to have to sell me something, before I just take your word for it
    Because hormones are not the end all be all of human interaction anymore than atoms are ("oooh, atoms are everywhere and they are all involved so I need to understand how atoms work in order to understand human interaction". does that make sense to you?).

    NLP talks about the importance of body language. I can't pick up on your hormones, but I can pick up on your body language, and it influences me much more directly. It's just an example though.

    Bottom line, mention hormones one more time and we better take this outside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freeeekyyy View Post
    Well, of course I'm speaking generally. It doesn't necessarily apply on an individual level. While my ideal mate is an ENFP, or failing that, an ENTP, the best way to go about finding somebody isn't to go by type, but to just meet somebody you like, get to know them, and then once you do know their type, use the information you know about that type to improve your interactions with them.
    oh, sure.

    though what i've seen with ENFP-INFJ relations - ranging from online discussion to IRL - is that it has the capacity to go really excellent, or really horribly, more so than a lot of pairings.

    i just wanted to point out that i don't fit that pattern, because, after all, if enough people don't fit a pattern, then it really isn't a pattern at all. Si skepticism i suppose

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