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    Default Challenging some self-imposed xNTP stereotypes.

    Some questions.

    1. Do you think you're really that lazy, or is it just that you got exposed in a very Te extensive environment that scared the bejesus out of you (such as taking up an ENGINEERING degree with all the Math and the Physics)?

    2. We all think that it's propbably the fault of our SJ parent, but let's say that you were given some degree of liberties and even financial resources early in your childhood. Would you be specializing in a specific area, or would you still be a jack-of-all-trades? I know quite a number of ENxPs 10 years older than me, more passionate, have more resources, and they're still undecided on what they want to focus on. Really.

    3. Do you purposely put yourself in a laid back state to find your legitimate niche? If you'd already found yours, did you become seriously busy with the endeavor?

    4. Let's say that you didn't learn MBTI, and that somehow, you're able to realistically cope in an SiTe envionment. Do you see yourself behaving this way without burning yourself out (after all, ignorance is a bliss)? Or did MBTI somehow give you a sense of becoming a "rebel" because it gave you an understanding on how things are apparently wrong with you in relation to your external environment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypocalypse View Post
    1. Do you think you're really that lazy, or is it just that you got exposed in a very Te extensive environment that scared the bejesus out of you (such as taking up an ENGINEERING degree with all the Math and the Physics)?
    I took 2.5 years of high-level math (which was more than what some of the engineers took), as well as hard-core engineering physics.

    I didn't do the engineering degree because I found it boring, not intimidating (although it was pretty damn intensive).

    I think the problem for INTP is that it's focused inward on theory, not outward on practice. It's not that the Te is intimidating, it's that it's "besides the point" and almost a distraction.

    2. We all think that it's propbably the fault of our SJ parent, but let's say that you were given some degree of liberties and even financial resources early in your childhood. Would you be specializing in a specific area, or would you still be a jack-of-all-trades? I know quite a number of ENxPs 10 years older than me, more passionate, have more resources, and they're still undecided on what they want to focus on. Really.
    I think I would have still been a generalist, because I just can't focus enough to be a specialist. However, if it was the me that I am now, with the knowledge of self I've gained and the importance of having specialized knowledge, I'd probably have gone into psychological/physiological research or something, if I could have handled the regimented aspects of it (as well as the grant-writing). It's hard to me to be a specialist on my own time (because I just jump from what seems interesting to the next), but if I stick myself into the collegiate machine, that forces me to develop specialization whether or not I want to; the hard part was the initial choice over what to do, not actually doing it.


    3. Do you purposely put yourself in a laid back state to find your legitimate niche? If you'd already found yours, did you become seriously busy with the endeavor?
    Huh?

    4. Let's say that you didn't learn MBTI, and that somehow, you're able to realistically cope in an SiTe envionment. Do you see yourself behaving this way without burning yourself out (after all, ignorance is a bliss)? Or did MBTI somehow give you a sense of becoming a "rebel" because it gave you an understanding on how things are apparently wrong with you in relation to your external environment?
    MBTI actually legimitized me as an equal human being. I was just different, not inferior. There is nothing wrong with me, nor is there anything wrong with others in terms of who we inherently are.

    I don't think I can cope in an SiTe environment. I hated it when I had to, and I've tailored my career to steer me more into N and theory when possible.
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    1. Do you think you're really that lazy, or is it just that you got exposed in a very Te extensive environment that scared the bejesus out of you (such as taking up an ENGINEERING degree with all the Math and the Physics)?

    Both.

    2. We all think that it's propbably the fault of our SJ parent, but let's say that you were given some degree of liberties and even financial resources early in your childhood. Would you be specializing in a specific area, or would you still be a jack-of-all-trades? I know quite a number of ENxPs 10 years older than me, more passionate, have more resources, and they're still undecided on what they want to focus on. Really.


    I don't know. I can't relate to that situation. I guess I'd be a jack of some trades.

    3. Do you purposely put yourself in a laid back state to find your legitimate niche? If you'd already found yours, did you become seriously busy with the endeavor?

    Well, I put myself in a relaxed state unless I feel like doing something, so I suppose so.

    4. Let's say that you didn't learn MBTI, and that somehow, you're able to realistically cope in an SiTe envionment. Do you see yourself behaving this way without burning yourself out (after all, ignorance is a bliss)? Or did MBTI somehow give you a sense of becoming a "rebel" because it gave you an understanding on how things are apparently wrong with you in relation to your external environment?

    No. MBTI didn't make me treat people differently really, or at least not to a great degree. I spent tons of time arguing with Te/Si people before I knew what they were. And of course not JUST Te/Si people. While I couldn't identify people like I can now, I still figured if someone's way of thinking was far different from mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypocalypse View Post
    Some questions.

    1. Do you think you're really that lazy, or is it just that you got exposed in a very Te extensive environment that scared the bejesus out of you (such as taking up an ENGINEERING degree with all the Math and the Physics)?
    I'm not so much lazy as distractible. About important stuff anyway. Cleaning up after myself, I'm definitely lazy. I've gotten decent at compartmentalizing to cope with my "motivation issues." I compete in combat sports and am in a math graduate program so I'm not really scared of much. (Well, approaching women still scares me a bit...).

    2. We all think that it's propbably the fault of our SJ parent, but let's say that you were given some degree of liberties and even financial resources early in your childhood. Would you be specializing in a specific area, or would you still be a jack-of-all-trades? I know quite a number of ENxPs 10 years older than me, more passionate, have more resources, and they're still undecided on what they want to focus on. Really.
    I picked things to focus my time on that are deep, complex, and hopefully ultimately rewarding. I see the necessity of specializing. My advise is to be a jack of all trades and try things until you have enough info to specialize confidently.

    3. Do you purposely put yourself in a laid back state to find your legitimate niche? If you'd already found yours, did you become seriously busy with the endeavor?
    I'm not sure I'm seriously busy about anything. I have faith that if I keep moving forward I'll get somewhere eventually. I try to make a steady progress. Everything will be a grind at times. Being INTP doesn't excuse me from getting things done, even if I can only muster the motivation to do so to my own standards.

    4. Let's say that you didn't learn MBTI, and that somehow, you're able to realistically cope in an SiTe envionment. Do you see yourself behaving this way without burning yourself out (after all, ignorance is a bliss)? Or did MBTI somehow give you a sense of becoming a "rebel" because it gave you an understanding on how things are apparently wrong with you in relation to your external environment?
    I was depressed for a long time. I probably would still be without the perspective I've gained from learning MBTI and the online personality communities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypocalypse View Post
    Some questions.

    1. Do you think you're really that lazy, or is it just that you got exposed in a very Te extensive environment that scared the bejesus out of you (such as taking up an ENGINEERING degree with all the Math and the Physics)?
    No, I'm pretty lazy outside of fields that I find interesting. Inside of fields I am interested I am completely the opposite though.

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    2. We all think that it's propbably the fault of our SJ parent, but let's say that you were given some degree of liberties and even financial resources early in your childhood. Would you be specializing in a specific area, or would you still be a jack-of-all-trades? I know quite a number of ENxPs 10 years older than me, more passionate, have more resources, and they're still undecided on what they want to focus on. Really.
    My parents are probably both Ns, possibly both NTs. I do specialize in a specific area, although it is quite general, kind of an intersection between philosophy, psychology and sociology.

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    3. Do you purposely put yourself in a laid back state to find your legitimate niche? If you'd already found yours, did you become seriously busy with the endeavor?
    Don't quite understand the question.

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    4. Let's say that you didn't learn MBTI, and that somehow, you're able to realistically cope in an SiTe envionment. Do you see yourself behaving this way without burning yourself out (after all, ignorance is a bliss)? Or did MBTI somehow give you a sense of becoming a "rebel" because it gave you an understanding on how things are apparently wrong with you in relation to your external environment?
    MBTI did not give me a sense of being a "rebel" so much as validating that my methods are just as workable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypocalypse View Post
    Some questions.

    1. Do you think you're really that lazy, or is it just that you got exposed in a very Te extensive environment that scared the bejesus out of you (such as taking up an ENGINEERING degree with all the Math and the Physics)?
    That second thing.

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    2. We all think that it's propbably the fault of our SJ parent, but let's say that you were given some degree of liberties and even financial resources early in your childhood. Would you be specializing in a specific area, or would you still be a jack-of-all-trades? I know quite a number of ENxPs 10 years older than me, more passionate, have more resources, and they're still undecided on what they want to focus on. Really.
    I had an SJ parent but I was given a lot of liberties and enough financial resources to get by. I haven't decided yet what to focus on.

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    3. Do you purposely put yourself in a laid back state to find your legitimate niche? If you'd already found yours, did you become seriously busy with the endeavor?
    I don't understand this question. I'm a laid back guy, what's it got to do with finding your niche and being busy?

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    4. Let's say that you didn't learn MBTI, and that somehow, you're able to realistically cope in an SiTe envionment. Do you see yourself behaving this way without burning yourself out (after all, ignorance is a bliss)? Or did MBTI somehow give you a sense of becoming a "rebel" because it gave you an understanding on how things are apparently wrong with you in relation to your external environment?
    I never really felt like coping, or that things were wrong in the external environment, regardless of MBTI.
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    1. Do you think you're really that lazy, or is it just that you got exposed in a very Te extensive environment that scared the bejesus out of you (such as taking up an ENGINEERING degree with all the Math and the Physics)?

    It's not easy to scare me; I rather scare others.^^ So, no, I'm really just extremely lazy in terms of topics I'm not interested in.

    2. We all think that it's propbably the fault of our SJ parent, but let's say that you were given some degree of liberties and even financial resources early in your childhood. Would you be specializing in a specific area, or would you still be a jack-of-all-trades? I know quite a number of ENxPs 10 years older than me, more passionate, have more resources, and they're still undecided on what they want to focus on. Really.

    I would never ever completely specialize on something. That's just to boring.

    3. Do you purposely put yourself in a laid back state to find your legitimate niche? If you'd already found yours, did you become seriously busy with the endeavor?


    I'm always in a laid back state, and always looking for interesting things, so it seems that I do. But no, I didn't find a perfect niche. I always only find temporarily sapid topics.

    4. Let's say that you didn't learn MBTI, and that somehow, you're able to realistically cope in an SiTe envionment. Do you see yourself behaving this way without burning yourself out (after all, ignorance is a bliss)? Or did MBTI somehow give you a sense of becoming a "rebel" because it gave you an understanding on how things are apparently wrong with you in relation to your external environment?

    I know MBTI just for a short period of time, but I'm known for being a "rebel"(in some way) ever since. MBTI didn't changed my behaviour at all, though it gave me some relief, because I never really felt connected to the humanity, not because I didn't come along with the people, rather because most people just have a completely different way of thinking. MBTI showed me that although "my group" is small, I am still a part of humanity.
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    1. Do you think you're really that lazy, or is it just that you got exposed in a very Te extensive environment that scared the bejesus out of you (such as taking up an ENGINEERING degree with all the Math and the Physics)?

    I can have a lazy streak but I do get things done. In college, I maintained a 3.8 GPA and I took tough courseloads. I was a biochem major. One quarter I had biology, chemistry, physics, and calculus, plus two gen-ed classes.


    2. We all think that it's propbably the fault of our SJ parent, but let's say that you were given some degree of liberties and even financial resources early in your childhood. Would you be specializing in a specific area, or would you still be a jack-of-all-trades? I know quite a number of ENxPs 10 years older than me, more passionate, have more resources, and they're still undecided on what they want to focus on. Really.

    I don't think I could get a Ph.D. largely because I can't imagine focusing on such a narrow area for several years. So I guess that makes me closer to a jack of all trades (and master of none). I prefer to generalize rather than specialize. I like variety and learning a bunch of new things. But having a niche to call my own would be nice.

    3. Do you purposely put yourself in a laid back state to find your legitimate niche? If you'd already found yours, did you become seriously busy with the endeavor?

    I'm not sure I understand this fully. What does putting yourself in a laidback state have to do with finding a niche?
    I'm still looking for my niche.

    4. Let's say that you didn't learn MBTI, and that somehow, you're able to realistically cope in an SiTe envionment. Do you see yourself behaving this way without burning yourself out (after all, ignorance is a bliss)? Or did MBTI somehow give you a sense of becoming a "rebel" because it gave you an understanding on how things are apparently wrong with you in relation to your external environment?

    I know I'm different from the majority but I have come to terms with acceptance with it. I don't rebel, at least not in the literal sense of the word, not if I want to keep my job. I've I have to deviate too much from my natural self and it became too uncomfortable, I'd get another job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypocalypse View Post
    1. Do you think you're really that lazy, or is it just that you got exposed in a very Te extensive environment that scared the bejesus out of you (such as taking up an ENGINEERING degree with all the Math and the Physics)?
    I'm scared. I want an Aerospace Engineering degree, and the amount of work required is beyond how much I would like to work, and closing to the amount of ingenuity I'd like to offer to the field. Really, the extensive amount of work turns me off, but I'm biting the bullet and fighting my way through it. It's hard as hell, but I expect by the end of this semester, I'll have conquered fear, and started really excelling in it.

    2. We all think that it's propbably the fault of our SJ parent, but let's say that you were given some degree of liberties and even financial resources early in your childhood. Would you be specializing in a specific area, or would you still be a jack-of-all-trades? I know quite a number of ENxPs 10 years older than me, more passionate, have more resources, and they're still undecided on what they want to focus on. Really.
    Yeah. My parents gave me all sorts of things I was interested in, and I'd get bored of the artform or whatever it was and move to something else. I played trumpet, then played drums, then designed, then started video, then began 3D modeling, then began, animating, then began mathematical studies, then began DJing, and through every single part of that, my parents gave some sort of contribution to becoming great in it. I haven't fully pursued ANY of those things, even though I still have a huge amount of knowledge in each of them.

    3. Do you purposely put yourself in a laid back state to find your legitimate niche? If you'd already found yours, did you become seriously busy with the endeavor?
    At the moment I'm pretty stressed about what to pursue, and I still think pursuing one thing will put me in a box that I won't enjoy.

    4. Let's say that you didn't learn MBTI, and that somehow, you're able to realistically cope in an SiTe envionment. Do you see yourself behaving this way without burning yourself out (after all, ignorance is a bliss)? Or did MBTI somehow give you a sense of becoming a "rebel" because it gave you an understanding on how things are apparently wrong with you in relation to your external environment?
    I... don't know. I would hope the former. If not, I'm taking someone to court. :steam:
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