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    Default Can you give some examples of multiple perspective?

    Hello. I am an STJ wandering in here, hoping for advice on improving my "N".

    I've read that INTJ's are masters of looking at problems/issues from multiple pespectives and multiple solutions. I was wondering if you could provide me with some examples of this? Perhaps you can help me with improving my "N"...

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    Can you post an example for which you like to see alternate perspectives offered?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Can you post an example for which you like to see alternate perspectives offered?
    Well... I'm not really sure...

    Let's take traffic for example. To a reply to someone asking: "What is your solution to our city's traffic mess?" The way I would do it, always, is to allude to concrete facts and occurrences in the real world. So I'd start out by saying something like, "Well, we have all sorts of examples in metropolitan cities throughout the world with what works and what doesn't. For example, in Singapore, where they have successfully implemented congestion pricing, they have seen commute times drop to record lows..."

    I guess even if I had any ideas on traffic, I would immediately stop any such thoughts on it if there were no examples in the world where they had either been implemented, or implemented and were successful...
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    next day can start when clock hits the 00:00 or it can start when you wake up.

    night starts technically when the sun goes down, but there can also be a set time when people usually consider night to start. like it can get dark here in finland at 3pm in the winter, technically the night starts at that time, but people dont usually think that 3pm is when the night time starts.

    my intj friend simply cant see that there can be different perspectives to these two things, he says that the next day starts when clock hits 00:00 and there is set time when night starts, because night cant start at 3pm.. so i dont really think intjs are masters of looking things from different perspectives. they may try to find a solution to problems from different perspectives tho, but there is only one correct answer, due to the all mighty all knowing Te.
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    When one hates their job and desperately wants a new one:

    (a) I could look vigorously for a new job while I'm still employed and then try to "transition" from one job right into the next (for purposes of stability, etc.)

    (b) I could just quit my job right now on the spot because I only live once and if I hate what I'm doing, then I'm not really living much of a life. Therefore, quit and know that something will indeed come along. (Some very successful entrepreneurs have been homeless at one point or another before they made their money, for example. They'd rather be homeless and working on what they love than to be in a house and hating what they do).

    (c) I could quit my job and take that part-time position at the gas station for now. It doesn't pay much, but it will free up some of my time to look for something else or maybe spend more time with friends, etc.

    (d) I could quit and take a vacation to Europe for a month. Then come back and look for work. Yeah, I've always wanted to do that.

    The list could go on. When brainstorming something like this, every single option should be out on the table and up for discussion. Only considering 2 options when, indeed, there are hundreds, only limits you. 100 ways to skin a cat, as they say.
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    Well if all the people wouldn't live in one single place we wouldn't have big traffic issues would we?!

    At least this is the case in Romania.

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    On addressing traffic problem: Why are there so many cars on the road? Is it a sign of a growing economy where more people are buying cars because they have more money and want the car as a status symbol? Is there a stigma in utilizing public transportation, and if so, in what ways can it be removed? Is the infrastructure outdated or insufficient to suit the demands of today's population? If improvement measures are made, how will they fare 10, 20 years and beyond into the future? What new technologies can help drivers reach their destinations more quickly and safely? How can we improve response to accidents and traffic bypassing? What new car designs will take up less space and run more efficiently on less fuel? Or simply: Why drive at all? Then we can get into entirely new ways of transport without the use of four wheels and an engine.

    N thinking is in nutshell: brainstorming, lateral thinking, free-association, thinking of the myriad of things as they relate to each other in context to a situation (the big picture.) Most of the time it's asking questions, finding answers and then launching another barrage of questions, again and again.

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    Yeah ok, tx.

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    Half the time, N is just about being unrealistic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lao View Post
    Well... I'm not really sure...

    Let's take traffic for example. To a reply to someone asking: "What is your solution to our city's traffic mess?" The way I would do it, always, is to allude to concrete facts and occurrences in the real world. So I'd start out by saying something like, "Well, we have all sorts of examples in metropolitan cities throughout the world with what works and what doesn't. For example, in Singapore, where they have successfully implemented congestion pricing, they have seen commute times drop to record lows..."

    I guess even if I had any ideas on traffic, I would immediately stop any such thoughts on it if there were no examples in the world where they had either been implemented, or implemented and were successful...
    I immediatly thought of elevated highways on top of ground level highways so you'd have to levels of highways, twice the capacity on regular highways. The elevated highways have fewer exits so less people will go on them, which allows for them to be made smaller and cheaper. Off course the costs are still big, but probably nothing compared to the economic loss experienced when everybody has to be in a traffic jam all the time.

    Thinking of a guy named Rory Sutherland (look up his TED talks, they're hilarious), I just came up with an idea: Make highways a lot narrower so they're way cheaper to build and maintain and use the money you save to hire models, both male and female, to serve the waiting people caviar!
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    Solution to traffic:

    Step 1: Tax cars by usage. Make it more expensive to drive within the city.
    Step 2: Make public transportation free and effective.
    Step 3: Don't allow single person to buy a vehicle meant for five.
    Step 4: Plan the city so that there is no need to commute.

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