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    Quote Originally Posted by tkae. View Post
    That's how xNTJs make me feel

    I don't know enough people that have been typed xSTP to be able to say much about them. I know that the one ISTP I had interaction with on some forums, I thought he was cool. He was just joking enough about my sensitivity that it wasn't insulting, but had me laughing about it

    He was a pretty healthy one though. So...




    Rarely, if ever.

    Usually by the time I'm to the point that something should be said, I'm hiding in my hole with a blanket over my head.



    Well, I mean beyond that. Of course there's the initial keeping looking at the ground and being terrified to open my mouth. But usually it's not a hyper-consciousness of them as a person, and it's just me being shy.

    With INTJs, it's a hyper-consciousness. I'm on edge about every little movement they make until I know for sure whether or not I can relax around them or need to keep my guard up.

    It's not that ya'll are bad people. Don't think that

    It's just that some INTJs are bad enough that I have to suspect every INTJ until proven otherwise. And they blend in incredibly well. It's not even a healthy/unhealthy thing. I've met perfectly healthy INTJs that were the worst of all. I guess it's how many Feeler types the individual grew up around, or something like that.

    But don't think it feels good having to judge an entire type just because a few are insensitive... I've met a bunch of INTJs that I consider very close friends. They just had to be patient enough to let it grow naturally
    I can handle people who project dominance or speak bluntly. It's not that I'm never intimidated by their presence, but I have enough dominance in my own personality to not feel ... beat down?...by it. I admire it in some people. I'm not saying I love every TJ I've ever met (I actually used to be at silent war with my old ESTJ boss...he called me "a very demanding young lady" and it made me feel secretly proud that I could put a very controlling, heartless older ESTJ man even a little on edge. I don't know what that says about me. But, anyway, I hated that douchebag.)

    On the other hand, there is something about Ti/Fe (it's especially when the Fe is immature, I think, I think immature or badly used/unhealthy Fe under the grip of Ti that's the problem) that makes me want to cry. It's the nasty precision with which they try to pick you apart, and their smug assurance that they are socially correct (Fe) to do so. Hypocrisy and unasked-for analysis of my character drives me batshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    I can handle people who project dominance or speak bluntly. It's not that I'm never intimidated by their presence, but I have enough dominance in my own personality to not feel ... beat down?...by it. I admire it in some people. I'm not saying I love every TJ I've ever met (I actually used to be at silent war with my old ESTJ boss...he called me "a very demanding young lady" and it made me feel secretly proud that I could put a very controlling, heartless older ESTJ man even a little on edge. I don't know what that says about me. But, anyway, I hated that douchebag.)

    On the other hand, there is something about Ti/Fe (it's especially when the Fe is immature, I think, I think immature or badly used/unhealthy Fe under the grip of Ti that's the problem) that makes me want to cry. It's the nasty precision with which they try to pick you apart, and their smug assurance that they are socially correct (Fe) to do so. Hypocrisy and unasked-for analysis of my character drives me batshit.
    My ESTJ is the only one I have any feelings for, and even then we fight more than we say we love each other. We always love each other, I never think anything else. We just butt heads over the stupidest of things

    Other than that, I avoid them like the plague. There's one I liked because we never got too close, but I think if we'd had to spend more than hour in an enclosed space, one of us would be dead...

    But about the dominance thing... yeah. I have the dominance of a sedated koala

    I think that's one reason why Fe really isn't something I think of as being all that bad. Fe-driven people never really notice me because I kind of blend into the background wherever I am. But yeah, now I remember why I never get on an xNFJ's bad side lol

    If I wasn't good at blending, though, I definitely would be more scared of them than I am

    And I've seen some of the Fi/Fe clashes around here, so luckily I've stayed away from those lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by tkae. View Post
    My ESTJ is the only one I have any feelings for, and even then we fight more than we say we love each other. We always love each other, I never think anything else. We just butt heads over the stupidest of things

    Other than that, I avoid them like the plague. There's one I liked because we never got too close, but I think if we'd had to spend more than hour in an enclosed space, one of us would be dead...
    I actually work for another ESTJ right now. He's cool, though, and it's probably because he's 80. He just has an amazing memory, and wants to dominate a captive audience to tell them about all of the things he did and accomplished and achieved throughout his eventful life.

    He reminds me of a cross between my ISTJ grandfather (very paternalistic, watching out for me, making sure my physical needs are met, but asserting his father-figure-ly-ness) and my much younger ENTJ friend.

    His wife is an ISFJ, I think. I can't imagine anyone else wanting to listen to his self-glorifying MONOLOGUES for more than an hour. But he's really nice to me. I think it's because he's old.

    But about the dominance thing... yeah. I have the dominance of a sedated koala
    I'm so dominant for an ENFP that I sometimes test as INFJ. Not that INFJs are dominant, but I think the strength of my tertiary gives me a J result. The weird thing is though, is that I like to be dominated by someone who can handle me. Being an ENFP I think means it's extremely tiring for me to *maintain* dominance long-term, my dominance can only come in Fi-motivated spurts...but I'll run all over someone who is super passive. It's probably why I like NTJs.

    I think that's one reason why Fe really isn't something I think of as being all that bad. Fe-driven people never really notice me because I kind of blend into the background wherever I am. But yeah, now I remember why I never get on an xNFJ's bad side lol

    If I wasn't good at blending, though, I definitely would be more scared of them than I am

    And I've seen some of the Fi/Fe clashes around here, so luckily I've stayed away from those lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thessaly View Post
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    Oh why not, let's resurrect this. The INFJ one recently got the treatment, so why not the thinking version, mm?

    Today I got into a fight with my mom, a strong-willed INT. I'm not writing this because I got in a fight with my mom. If you're reading this thinking, she just wants to rant and is upset because she couldn't avoid the fight or was immature, it's not that. It's called I'm tired of fighting the crap she attempts to feed me.

    She's emotional. Hella. Like stop, am I offending you? Did I wreck your plan? Oh no, now you'll have to put laundry away at 7:48 instead of 7:28, life's balls sweatie tm

    She always seems to know when I'm criticizing her. I wouldn't be surprised if she knew I was writing this. I have no privacy, and she doesn't care to give it to me. She thinks every personal detail about her is secret, even her name. She's surprised when strangers know her name, and tries her best to get them to drop it. If you're thinking now that she's mentally ill, it's likely. But she's also INJ, and mean.

    I won't let one bad experience with INTJs cloud my experience of them, but this certainly has left a mark. I've tried everything to get her to listen to me, to change her plans (because they stress her out - if that's the case, why follow them? It's fruitless!), try to change her point of view, explain myself clearly in every manner possible. Granted, in the past I wasn't up for this kind of thing but I changed of my own accord, and knowing she wouldn't notice, I still went ahead and bettered myself. This still doesn't impress her in the least, and only recently have I received the comment, "You're mature now. Doing adult things."

    What drives me nuts about INJs is there's always miles and miles of subtext beneath every comment, more than any other type. There's subtext in every human interaction, but since they have Ni, they go straight for the jugular with symbolism and are offended if you don't get it, or even if you do. There's no winning.

    When she argues, she argues hard and with no mercy, none - if I'm wrong, she will slice through my logic until I barely have a brain cell left to think with, and somewhere, she'll think she's clever. She even says to me, "I'm bigger than you. I'm smarter than you." I realize that's stereotypically INTJ and even sometimes I doubt her type, but the way she barrels through logic and just destroys people with sarcasm can't be anything else. At this point I've stopped fighting her, but I have sensitive emotions too. I get hurt easily, and whether that's a bad or a good thing, I can't tell. But the more she continues to roll over my feelings, the more dirt I'll have on her.

    Today she wondered if I consider how she felt about things. I said yes, "I do, just not right now." Apparently that wasn't the correct answer. "You don't," she said firmly, looking me in the eye with the offense of a thousand suns. And and this point I wonder, why should I? If you're so complex and deep, you're not worth fighting for. Go use your Ni somewhere else, like a daycare where you can manage all the kids and turn them into soldiers. I'm sure they'll appreciate that symbolism wuwuwuwuwu

    *explodes*

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    In my personal experience me and INTJs tend to clash mostly due to Ne/Ni, Te/Ti and Fe/Fi clashes. We tend to however have strong respect for one another. The INTJs i have met on this site seem cool and interesting people if somewhat "formal and stuffy". They can offer good Te and Ni to help me use my Ne/Ti to the fullest though. We are fundamentally very different people but with work they can be some of the best freinds you can possibly have as they can be loyal and caring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antimony View Post
    I am waiting for someone to hate the INTJ

    I hate unhealthy INTJ's of which I know many.

    Those particular types I find synonamous with " angry nerd" and "internet troll". The ones who have an obvious inferiority complex and turn it into a superiority complex, constantly trying to prove they are smarter than everyone else by angrily nit-picking everything everyone says and showing off useless knowladge. Who respond to everyone asking for help/advice/a basic question with some snide comment, over simplifying a problem that they would never have because they would just deal with it like a boss-no they would not because they are terrified of confrontation/talking to people. I had a few INTJ roomates/friends. I had to deal with all the social stuff like talking to the landlord or ordering at a fast food place. This is probably a trait shared by many I's, and I don't mind, leading and taking care of my own is what I do, it just bugs me in this particular context.

    I probably shouldn't go any further. I really hate the angry nerd type, and while I find most angry nerds are INTJ's not all INTJ are angry nerds. Just the insecure/unhealthy ones. I just happen to be surrounded by them. I think it is the area I live in that attracts them like a magnet
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