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    Wow Thompsons description of ENTPs is kinda evil ?! What happened there ?!

    Makes me even think I am enfp after I read both descriptions
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    Wow Thompsons description of ENTPs is kinda evil ?! What happened there ?!

    Makes me even think I am enfp after I read both descriptions
    Is it? I hadn't noticed (not kidding) What bits are you referring to?

    Have just looked it up again in the book (now thankfully located - was under the sofa - ISTP "other half" called me out on the mess finally and I extracted it!)

    I could identify with most of the description, though not all (but in the sense of "not sure it's accurate or applicable to me" rather than "insulting"). - e.g. 'ruthlessly short attention span' (I don't have the attention span for a movie - it's torture going to the cinema [theater...for americans] - I have to go to the cinema watch dvds in installments...) - 'alert to systemic logic' - 'hypomanic' (or do all these traits come off as borderline sociopath to more 'normal' types?)

    (I don't agree with "broad public influence" - like Malcolm X? or was he ESTP? - "relish socialization" - etc)

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    look at the first sentence alone on page 209: "ENTPs are aggressive, expansive and opportunistic ..."

    w00t ? I rather can identify more with the enfp description

    I am surprised never read the book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    look at the first sentence alone on page 209: "ENTPs are aggressive, expansive and opportunistic ..."

    w00t ? I rather can identify more with the enfp description

    I am surprised never read the book.
    Perhaps I'm just evil then so it seems normal - dunno I don't see that as evil!

    Maybe you are a closet ENFP!

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    Back to the original question:
    As a Ti dom my default mode is to zone out and be lost daydreaming. In order to be able to zone out however the exterior must be such that I can savely neglect it: not too cold, not too much noice, not standing in the midle of the road during rushhour traffic, etc. As soon as that is taken care of, I´m off. Otherwise the environment will brievely attract my attention and affect my mood as well (especially in the case of cold) until I can safely return to my usual oblivious state. Maybe it is exactly because it pulls me out of that default mode that an uncomfortable environment can get me cranky.
    A positive surrounding on the other hand (nice warm bath, a walk on a beautiful beach, etc.) is usually 90% lost on me: once in a while I zone back in to check that everything is fine, very brievely enjoy it and return to cloud 42.
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