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    Quote Originally Posted by Night View Post
    My comment was snarky.
    I noticed.
    Reyson: ...If you were to change your ways, I'm sure we could rebuild the relationship the two of us once shared.

    Naesala: Oh no, that I could never do. You see, humans are essential to the fulfillment of my ambitions.

    Reyson: You've changed, Naesala. If this is the path you've chosen, I've nothing left to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Night View Post
    My comment was snarky.

    Yet, I have to respond, if slightly...

    A priori logic is as rational as the construct of its foundation. All people are born. Sounds legit.

    Yet, when variables change, so to does the meaning of the priori. Let's say tomorrow, people lose the capacity to sexually reproduce (profound unlikelihood, yet not impossible.) From here on, we'll say all humans must biologically mature within a laboratory from zygote to fetus. Childbirth undergoes revision. People are no longer born.

    Rationalism too - All carrots are plants. Plants grow in the ground. All carrots grow in the ground.

    Once we are able to synthesize methods in which carrots can successfully grow out of the ground, we render our Rationalist framework archaic.
    Yes, rules on some things can change, and to that degree I use pragmatism to deal with life on a case to case basis. But when it comes to questions of cosmic, one might say traditionally divine proportions, I am a rationalist.

    I think, therefor I am. That's the best example. As long as I'm thinking I exist. No alternative can be conceived(and I've seen a lot of people try). It's a very broad and yet very simple conclusion. It still uses some logic basis to be concluded, though.

    My problem with pragmatism on the "divine" scale is that it usually leads to traps of reduction ad infinitum. Foundational believe spares of that problem.

    ...But yes, you were being snarky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risen View Post
    Ditto. I love the deep discussion you can get into with an INTJ, but sometimes it can be draining even for the likes of an INTP, for the INTJ in my experience likes nothing more than the deep waters that require a fair amount of energy to traverse. But it's still extremely fun . Turns me on actually...
    I'm mostly turned on by mental stimulation as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mippus View Post
    Coming from an INTJ, that is one hell of a compliment
    Why thank you, in return.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minako-bot View Post
    I'm mostly turned on by mental stimulation as well.
    I like how agreeable you are .

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    this is becoming too fluffy for an NT-thread
    Vanitas vanitatum omnia vanitas

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    Quote Originally Posted by mippus View Post
    this is becoming too fluffy for an NT-thread
    Bah, you just want a hug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianBear View Post
    Bah, you just want a hug.
    Maybe he wants me to start babbling about epistemology again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    Haha. Minako, you're going to make a name for yourself just by being the INTJ without a chip on your shoulder.
    MP, I'm starting to understand what you meant. I see hostility all over this board regarding INTP vs INTJ. My two best relationships were with INTPs. So, I guess I'm just the bias INTJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minako-bot View Post
    MP, I'm starting to understand what you meant. I see hostility all over this board regarding INTP vs INTJ. My two best relationships were with INTPs. So, I guess I'm just the bias INTJ.
    I try to stay out of the hostilities. I still get dragged in sometimes.

    One of my brothers is an INTJ, and I have lived most of my life with a cold impression of him. It's only improved in the time that I have been living with him and his girlfriend. He's mean, and he has often left me baffled with his inability to respect talents other than his own.

    One time, I recall explaining to my mother what the contrasts were between an INTP and an INTJ, and I don't remember exactly what it is I said about INTPs, but my brother then piped in "Yeah, you're the people that mess everything up". He said it with a smile, but it was obvious that to some extent, he really believed it. I reflected on that with astonishment, wondering "if INTPs mess everything up, then what does he have to say about ESFPs?".

    As I moved into social environments like this forum, I learned that my experience was not uniquely personal. It turns out that my brother sort of represents the stereo-typical flawed INTJ. We have a few on this forum(but I'm not going to name names).

    I know plenty of INTPs make their own misguided contributions to these conflicts, but it should still come as no suprise that I've been on their side rather than the INTJs'. Ideally, there wouldn't be any sides to take.

    It's really dumb. One might argue that most type conflict is caused by people failing to recognize the use of other types(just look at BlueWing). In light of this, I muse that there are hardly any two types that should be more able to recognize the usefulness of one another than INTPs and INTJs.
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