[NT] Fake logic

[paradox fox]

If you're a Thinking type, have you ever made up something in a conversation or argument and presented it as logical, even though you knew it wasn't logical, just to see how far you could get away with it? Under what circumstances did/would you do it?

 

[wolfy]

I've done it 237 times as I recall.

 

[Shmooooooooo]

Never on purpose; however, when I do paint myself into a logical corner and know it before the people I'm arguing with, I usually slam on the semantics acrobatics and am most times successful in reframing or redefining the question at hand in order to get me out. It's rather satisfying.

 

[Totenkindly]

If you're a Thinking type, have you ever made up something in a conversation or argument and presented it as logical, even though you knew it wasn't logical, just to see how far you could get away with it? Under what circumstances did/would you do it?

...Get thee behind me, satan.

 

[Stevo]

If you're a Thinking type, have you ever made up something in a conversation or argument and presented it as logical, even though you knew it wasn't logical, just to see how far you could get away with it? Under what circumstances did/would you do it?

I just love annoying the hell out of my Philosophy major friend by arguing with him that various inanimate objects have free will. It drives him crazy because he uses the exact same arguments to state that he himself has free will...and they're no less applicable to anything else.

 

[paradox fox]

I just love annoying the hell out of my Philosophy major friend by arguing with him that various inanimate objects have free will. It drives him crazy because he uses the exact same arguments to state that he himself has free will...and they're no less applicable to anything else.

Do tell

 

[suttree]

I'll tease people with bombastic rhetoric in the middle of a discussion to entertain myself. NTP's will sometimes chuckle, most everyone else will think im weird.

When the Ne gets out in front of the Ti its fun to come up with the most ridiculous explanation possible.

 

[NPcomplete]

In certain situations, I have used the usual tricks of redefining questions, inventing and using long words, twisting the meaning of words to win arguments or to confuse my "opponent" long enough for me to win. This is usually done with a smug smile. Hehe. It's quite enjoyable too.

 

[rav3n]

It starts with Fallacy of!

 

[Halla74]

If you're a Thinking type, have you ever made up something in a conversation or argument and presented it as logical, even though you knew it wasn't logical, just to see how far you could get away with it?

Well...maybe...

Isn't this just a higher form of bullshitting?
High-brow bullshitting if you will!

Under what circumstances did/would you do it?

I would do it for laughs,
I would do it for fun,
I've done it with tall girls, small girls and nuns.
It's because I like all topics, and people, and reasons,
That logical bullshitting never goes out of season.

 

[metasapiens]

Oh yeah fallacies ... mental laziness leads to them. I hate that. I mostly avoid to express serious opinions IRL. It's not cowardice, it's ad nauseam .. seriously, when it's a matter of courage .. I can't forgive. Can't win over denial but often considering to cement some useless traps.

 

[Lucas]

All the time. Usually it is not "fake" logic per se, I just start with a ridiculous premise, or make up really weird links.

One of my favorites is linking every possible action I can to genocide or nuclear war. The best one I have come up with so far is that saying things are true leads to genocide.

 

[rav3n]

All the time. Usually it is not "fake" logic per se, I just start with a ridiculous premise, or make up really weird links.

One of my favorites is linking every possible action I can to genocide or nuclear war. The best one I have come up with so far is that saying things are true leads to genocide.

*waits for enactment of Godwin's Law*

 

[human101]

lol I managed to logically argue that snails pity the human condition

 

[Magic Poriferan]

I have too grave an opinion of logic to add any extra injury to the comprehension of it at large.

 

[Blank]

This is why I'm hot

I'm hot cause I'm fly
You ain't cause you're not
This is why
This is why I'm hot

Q.E.D.

 

[Tamske]

Never done it on purpose. I can, however, be really sure of something and defend it with a passion, even if it's totally wrong.
"You're being unlogical" shuts me up for a long enough time to make your point. But then you've got to point out my logical mistake.

 

[Lucas]

"You're being unlogical" shuts me up for a long enough time to make your point.

Really? That would just make me more convinced of my logicality, if the person saying that did not even know the opposite of logical is illogical, not unlogical.

 

[Moonstone3]

I don't make things up, some people call it stretching what is. I like to think of it as broadening everyone's horizons.
Under what circumstances...almost any, but most definitely when I have higher knowledge in the area I'm speaking of. If I don't hold the higher knowledge, then I tie the conversation to something else that I do know more than the other person about. I'll throw in some big words here, some concepts there, and usually link it to something completely illogical so my thoughts are the lesser of the evils.

 

[metasapiens]

Really? That would just make me more convinced of my logicality, if the person saying that did not even know the opposite of logical is illogical, not unlogical.

Red herring fallacy