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    Senior Member MoneyTick's Avatar
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    Default ENTJs: Do you have your ups & downs or are you ALWAYS a social person?

    My job has just engulfed my social life completely.

    I'm in top management of a retail corporation -- which translates into 36 hour shifts, dreaming about tomorrow's sales figures, a 12 page "to do" list and eating problems for breakfast (yuuummm).

    I've lost touch of old friends - I remember I used to go to parties and blow the roof of the place and wake up in someone else's bed with bleeding scratch marks all over my chest lol. Good times.

    But deep down I knew "the life" wasn't for me, and I traded it for the corporate life.

    Now I wake up in the morning and go straight to the Fox Business channel, fix my tie and while I'm at it cup of coffee too, then speed to the office, sit down, (the phone rings) and let hell unleash itself on me for the next 17 hours.

    I love the "rush" of it and I've been in business so long I'm starting to fall in love with the corporate life. Or I'm loosing my mind.

    Its 5:00 AM, still awake from yesterday - and I'm wondering where my old self is.

    Is this normal for an ENTJ? I mean I'm really driven in the business world, but my greatest fear is that I'll loose my ability to "not act corporate" but more like a regular human being.

    An old buddy of mine threw a party a few weeks ago and I went. - my confidence is still with me but I cant seem to relate to people unless the topic of business is entailed.

    I've read somewhere that ENTJs can become isolationists. Well, I feel like crap when I'm not around people, It really makes me feel like something's missing. But when I'm around others who arent my co-workers - I cant relate to them like I used to.

    Bottom line: Are there fluctuations between I/E in a typical ENTJ? Can their drive for excellence compromise their regular social fluency?

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    No one is ever one way 100% of the time. If someone say otherwise, that person is a frigging robot or an INTJ. Maybe you should get in touch with your human side.
    This post grammatical errors had been intentionally left uncorrected.

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    ENTJ is the most extroverted of all types. So no you should not suffer from these problems. Like FDG and Santtu who scored 100% on extroversion.
    The fear of poverty turns people into slaves of money.

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    I highly doubt entjs are Gods gift to the world and are suppposed to be 100% problem-free perfectly created beings. Every type has their pitfalls. Irrespecively, I believe my plight is due to my absent emphasis on creating more personal relationships. I incline to direct the vast porportion of my extrovertion into creating business connections in liue of more human ones. Certainly a pitfall, but what are you going to do

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    I am not an ENTJ but am married to an ESTJ, who often feels similarly that his work life consumes the rest of his life. I think the key for you is to cultivate another interest, decidedly different than your work life, but one that still gives you the people recharge that you need.

    Choose a charity or project that aligns with your interests. Give 4 hours a week to this and you will find that you start to rebalance a bit.

    I think it's great you love your job; you're obviously doing well too, and you seem to clearly see the issue as an absorption into a one-dimensional existence. Let yourself broaden out again a bit, and I think reconnecting with a wider variety of people and interests will follow suit.

    Good luck!
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    When people see some things as good,
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    Quote Originally Posted by cloud View Post
    ENTJ is the most extroverted of all types. So no you should not suffer from these problems. Like FDG and Santtu who scored 100% on extroversion.
    What does this mean? It's terribly wrong, the fact that I scored 100% doesn't mean every ENTJ has to Anyway, MoneyTick, I'm not trying to put you down but - what you describe sounds like advanced stage "workaholism". I'm not inclined to consider workaholism as a real psychological illness, excepting its latests stages, which are characterized by an almost complete obsession with work. Take some time off, really, it might have a big negative impact on your psyche and body.

    I am not an ENTJ but am married to an ESTJ, who often feels similarly that his work life consumes the rest of his life. I think the key for you is to cultivate another interest, decidedly different than your work life, but one that still gives you the people recharge that you need.

    Choose a charity or project that aligns with your interests. Give 4 hours a week to this and you will find that you start to rebalance a bit.

    I think it's great you love your job; you're obviously doing well too, and you seem to clearly see the issue as an absorption into a one-dimensional existence. Let yourself broaden out again a bit, and I think reconnecting with a wider variety of people and interests will follow suit.
    I'm not sure it's that easy. Workaholism has a big impact on cardiovascular health and affection. I think he should take it quite seriously, if the situation is really as bad as he describes in his post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    What does this mean? It's terribly wrong, the fact that I scored 100% doesn't mean every ENTJ has to Anyway, MoneyTick, I'm not trying to put you down but - what you describe sounds like advanced stage "workaholism". I'm not inclined to consider workaholism as a real psychological illness, excepting its latests stages, which are characterized by an almost complete obsession with work. Take some time off, really, it might have a big negative impact on your psyche and body.


    Bullshit.

    You spend 5hrs on an MBTI central everyday and you call yourself a 100% extrovert?
    That makes total sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cloud View Post
    Bullshit.

    You spend 5hrs on an MBTI central everyday and you call yourself a 100% extrovert?
    That makes total sense.
    Sure - my job requires me to stay at the computer, but during the summer there isn't much to do. So, forums are a nice outlet for social interaction.
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    Well, from what I observed, you come here everyday and spend at least 2 hrs.
    That means you are spending at least half your life around a computer.
    In fact, you are one of the members that come here most often and lurk the longest.


    You are not convincing anyone but yourself with your half baked lies.
    The fear of poverty turns people into slaves of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cloud View Post
    Well, from what I observed, you come here everyday and spend at least 2 hrs.
    That means you are spending at least half your life around a computer.
    In fact, you are one of the members that come here most often and lurk the longest.


    You are not convincing anyone but yourself with your half baked lies.
    ........
    So, social interaction via text/forum is no longer social ?
    Also just because someone is on or around the computer a majority of their FREE time, it doesn't mean they aren't social. I spend hours a day watching TV and "lurking" about -- yet, I still manage to go out and see friends nearly everyday and have a very active social life. Perhaps it is the same for him.

    Guess it just be my awesome powers of planning ahead that enables me to do this. It's okay to react in rude remarks if you're jealous of us ENTJs.

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