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    I don't now, but I want to say INTJs. :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmileyMan View Post
    You should get another temporary suspension for making stupid threads.

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    Ouch, I just read all the other posts.

    :ouch:

    What's so wrong with this thread?

    *thoroughly confused*
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    Quote Originally Posted by SillySapienne View Post
    Ouch, I just read all the other posts.

    :ouch:

    What's so wrong with this thread?

    *thoroughly confused*
    It's like asking "Who's more lazy, blacks or Mexicans?"

    It's a stupid question based on stupid opinions of stupid people.

    Also, it is stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pettycure View Post
    It's like asking "Who's more lazy, blacks or Mexicans?"

    It's a stupid question based on stupid opinions of stupid people.

    Also, it is stupid.
    I believe in making observations, seeing patterns and filing clumps of data into categories, and categorizations.

    What's so wrong in making/seeing/believing in generalizations?

    There are always exceptions to the rule.

    Also, would I be stupid if I asked, who tends to be more aggressive, males or females?

    Or, who tends to be more thoughtful, introverts or extroverts?

    I don't see what's wrong with opening a discussion about certain observations, for example I think both hypothetical questions I posed would lead to some very insightful discourse and debate.
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    The issue is that people are interpreting it like this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Pettycure View Post
    It's like asking "Who's more lazy, blacks or Mexicans?"
    ...when that is not at all what it is meant to be.

    As we can see from posts like this:

    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    J is the close-minded function.
    ...and this:

    Quote Originally Posted by lastrailway View Post
    Closed-mindness is built-in function of J.
    ...such biases are real and thoroughly entrenched in many people's minds.

    As opposed to seeing these threads for what they are meant to be -- an attempt to explore the origin of these biases, get an idea as to why they exist, and perhaps gain a deeper understanding as to whether there is any truth to them -- some people are just viewing them as an attempt to reinforce these biases.

    This interpretation, unfortunately, could not be further from the truth.

    But simple minds need simple explanations.

    And some people would apparently rather see issues like these, which are very real, swept under the rug and not talked about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    I'd say that's a sign of open-mindedness...

    That's also a possibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SillySapienne View Post
    I believe in making observations, seeing patterns and filing clumps of data into categories, and categorizations.

    What's so wrong in making/seeing/believing in generalizations?

    There are always exceptions to the rule.

    Also, would I be stupid if I asked, who tends to be more aggressive, males or females?

    Or, who tends to be more thoughtful, introverts or extroverts?

    I don't see what's wrong with opening a discussion about certain observations, for example I think both hypothetical questions I posed would lead to some very insightful discourse and debate.
    I hate to do this, but:



    might have something to do with it. Humanity doesn't have a very good track record with simply discussing the negative aspects of a group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post
    Humanity doesn't have a very good track record with simply discussing the negative aspects of a group.
    Is this, though? What if it were called, Which type is more open-minded? Or, which type tends to be more receptive to differing ideas?

    Same question but more user friendly.

    I'm not really sure what the object is of the thread but I think people tend to be overly defensive here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post
    I hate to do this, but:



    might have something to do with it. Humanity doesn't have a very good track record with simply discussing the negative aspects of a group.
    I saw that image, and without explicitly knowing it, I knew it had something to do with the Holocaust.

    Um, I don't think the Jews were persecuted for their "negative" aspects.

    They were scapegoated, I do not promote, in anyway, promulgated untrue generalizations, but you're a man of science, we can in fact make assertions regarding groups, hence there even existing groups/categories/systems.

    What makes a group?

    What makes a category?

    What makes a system?

    We operate in a world filled with generalizations, and generalizing is not a BAD thing, seriously, it's not.

    I'm dumbfounded, how is making generalizations, in and of itself a bad thing?

    :confused:

    To know that something has a tendency/pattern/common characteristic does not negate the fact that individual people are just that, individuals, and individual situations and circumstances always trump generalizations about the group.

    Also, what we need to do is make astute generalizations, understand why they exist, what they imply.

    To say ALL women are sexually submissive is different than saying more women than men tend to be sexually submissive.

    Make sense?

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