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  1. #131
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    Any advice on how to nudge an INTP out of this state?
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    INTJs have a hard time admitting they are wrong.
    Generally, INTPs can relent, although quite stand-offishly, and accept that they are incorrect on something.

    So If you are using closed-minded as a synonym for unwilling to accept other ideas than ones they view as correct, definitely INTJs.
    At least in my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy Conduit View Post
    It's ridiculous how many voted for NTJs. I've met so many people who were probably NTPs (several at this very forum) and were themselves incredibly immature and closed-minded to others' opinions or arguments, so it really depends on the individual.
    Sure there are close minded people of each type and whether or not people reject the information before really looking into it and judging it as it is depends on the issue and the persons past experiences(which dictate his reactions to it). And the idea of the topic is not to figure out which one is the close minded one and which is not..

    But the thing is that NTJs are more prone to trying to judge things before they even fully grasp it or gather enough information about it to make any proper judgments on it. This leads to information not getting pass the filters and can cause closed mindedness. NTPs on the other hand are more perceptive for what is being said, but if it doesent sound right to Ti, it gets labeled as bullshit. So in order to convince an NTP about something true, you just need to make a proper argument for it, but to convince an NTJ about something that they dont see as true is next to impossible.

    But if you take a religious fanatic of any type and try to convince him of his religion being wrong and total crap, you are being met with close mindedness. And if you take a weight on your hand and try to convince any type that it will fall if you let go and demonstrate it many times, only a fool wouldnt believe it..
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    I'm very happy to read interesting responses, more than trying to give sense to my last night dreams (that I don't remember anyway).

    Moreover as you all speak of INTP/INTJ and not ENTP/ENTJ, I don't feel concerned

    Mal12345 thanks for your very clear answer about functions for NTP.

    On this point I wonder if INTP and ENTP are quite similar in some ways.

    I'm not an MBTI genius, and understand more enneagramm concepts today(I've been to many courses and conferences).

    Those functions stuffs are a bit hazy to me sometimes. I always have to check the meaning and read again.


    "Any advice on how to nudge an INTP out of this state?"


    I have no idea. I would say go out with a book outside in a very quiet place,
    and trying to keep your head out of your so exciting subjects step by step.

    Realising that fresh air is sometimes more healthy than constant researches and intellect stimulation.

    It can work for me. And even if considered as an ENTP I seem to become less and less extrovert.
    So, why could this not work for intp as well ?
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    More closed-minded is one who is more scared. Doesnt relate to types.
    Last edited by hacbad macbar; 09-11-2014 at 06:54 AM.
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    Ti is pretty damn closed, but so is Fi. Not sure which of these functions best pertains to the 'mind,' so I'll go out on a limb and say that the question is just balls to begin with (as though half the people in this thread haven't said pretty much the exact same thing).

    I will say that overall, in most practical matters and practices, that NTJs have significantly less interests and hobbies compared to NTPs-- though they make up for it by just being really obsessed with the few they do have. NTJs are much less interested in trying new things than NTPs, and this is typically the measure that I gauge practical 'closed mindedness.' So my vote goes to the NTJs.

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    Um... ok I'm kinda new here and I don't quite know enough about mbti types to be considered anything above average knowledge.... but I voted ntj as they are ,according to profile, quicker to make desicions. If they are quicker to make predictions ,perhaps they haven't considered all options naturally making them more closed minded. I am an intp so perhaps my objectivity is compromised by the fact I want my type to be considered open minded. I will repost after I have studied up

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    This is not even a competition...


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    Find the people who repeatedly post the following:

    "You're definitely not type blah, blah, blah, blah" or "You're definitely type blah, blah, blah, blah" and perhaps a pattern will emerge. The use of the word "definitely" is a hint. Having said that, just because one person engages in that behavior doesn't mean it makes sense to generalize about the entire group based on those individuals.

    On a side note: The logical spelling is closed-minded, not close-minded. But both are used. (Much to my chagrin.)

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    Any type can be close-minded, but this is usually a judger thing. Close-mindedness goes against what a perceiver is.

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