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    Whatever he is, he's a genius. Just saw Inception for the first time. Even if you don't like the movie you gotta admire the mind behind such a thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Have you ever watched him in an interview?

    He is not intense or dominating, he's laid-back and open and flexy. He creates a movie with rational internal structure so all the questions that might be asked are answered. IOW, no quirky stuff, really -- it all make sense, much more than any other director I've seen. It's got inherent rational structure to it. His first real move (Memento) was definitely an exploration of structure.

    Compare that to an NJ type like Stanley Kubrick, where sometimes the vision becomes surreal in nature and more out to reflect the internal world of the director rather than letting the movie dictate itself by standard, derivable rules of rationality.

    What does that sound like?
    Precisely.

    That's also why Kubrick is so much better.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecttcelfeR View Post
    That does make him seem more INTPish. Perhaps it's the all encompassing directing style that Nolan has that allowed me to use these (INTJ) functions to analyze his movies? What are some of Kubrick's movies I'm not that could with directors names in association with movies?
    I think directing is actually a very NJ kinda enterprise.

    Kubrick did "2001: A Space Odyssey", "The Shining", "A Clockwork Orange", "Full Metal Jacket", "Dr. Strangelove", "Eyes Wide Shut", et al.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moiety View Post
    Whatever he is, he's a genius. Just saw Inception for the first time. Even if you don't like the movie you gotta admire the mind behind such a thing.
    I respect his mind; the film was very creative.

    But, like some of his others, he totally fails on the pathos element of art.

    As you would expect from an INTP director: the film seemed emotionally stunted.

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    I'm amused

    I read the first three posts and then ignored the rest when writing this reply.

    INTJ says director is INTJ
    INTP says director is INTP
    ENTP says director is ENTP.

    I say the director is popular.

    He's probably ISFP or something :P

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    Reflect is an INTP.

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    From recalling me watching the movie I would say that throughout the movie I did feel detached. The acting wasn't bad, but everything was just bland. Nothing in the surroundings really felt there, which makes sense, since most of it took place in dreams. I will say that he is doing better with the Batman series than anything else I've seen of his. I wouldn't even say this ranks up in the top, but he took a creative concept and did what he does. I will say that he knows how to weave complex plots. Very INTPish thing to do, I must agree with that. Then what about saying: This movie was very INTP-ish. As he made this move, most likely unknowingly, for a more INTx/P crowd. I will admit I based my typing on one movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecttcelfeR View Post
    From recalling me watching the movie I would say that throughout the movie I did feel detached. The acting wasn't bad, but everything was just bland. Nothing in the surroundings really felt there, which makes sense, since most of it took place in dreams.
    Very similar to how I feel about INTPs, in general...

    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecttcelfeR View Post
    I will say that he is doing better with the Batman series than anything else I've seen of his.
    Unfortunately, I'm a huge Batman fan, so I've been a little letdown by his direction.

    Batman Begins was good in many ways, but had two unforgettable flaws: 1) Batman's voice, and 2) the out-of-nowhere, completely undeveloped romantic angle with Katie Holmes (shit just came outta nowhere at the end).

    The latter makes me surmise that he has the emotional unawareness/retardation you see in many an INTP.

    Compare his direction with someone like Ridley Scott (type suggestions anyone? Silly and I think NTJ), who knows just how to pull at the emotional heart strings...

    With The Dark Knight, he seemed to lose all sense of storytelling and pacing by choosing to include that ending narrative about TwoFace. Should've just let that angle continue on into another movie... I'm not one to complain about long films or long plane flights (in fact, people doing so is a major pet peeve of mine), but shit dragged on at the end, and was completely unnecessary.

    Nolan should hire me to make his films better.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecttcelfeR View Post
    I wouldn't even say this ranks up in the top, but he took a creative concept and did what he does. I will say that he knows how to weave complex plots. Very INTPish thing to do, I must agree with that.


    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecttcelfeR View Post
    Then what about saying: This movie was very INTP-ish.
    This is exactly what Silly and I said to each other coming out of the theatre.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecttcelfeR View Post
    As he made this move, most likely unknowingly, for a more INTx/P crowd.
    Ummm, I wouldn't go that far.

    I'd say it's obvious that it was made by an INTP, but I wouldn't say it was made for INTPs (or INTJs).

    I know an ENFJ who says it is her favorite movie.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecttcelfeR View Post
    I will admit I based my typing on one movie.
    Well, if it's any consolation, as I said before, I think you were right in finding directing (in general) to be a very NTJ thing to do.

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    Batman's new voice will forever be ridiculed by me and my friends. I make fun of it constantly, it was too much. I love long movies and I thought it disconcerning that they killed TwoFace off, though I have my own thoughts on that. I didn't so much mind the love interest, as much as who they picked to play the replacement for the second movie. First of all the person switch kind of brought me out of it because it seemed like he first like one women and (Even though it was the same character) it gave the feel that he changed his mind. I'd say they were just trying to give TwoFace more of a reason to be pissed and give Batman a reason to bitter and sad. Though, I'm pretty sure they're going to have to find a new direction for the third one as I believe they planned to use The Joker in the next one, or that was what I got from it, but we're moving on to the riddler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    The latter makes me surmise that he has the emotional unawareness/retardation you see in many an INTP.

    Compare his direction with someone like Ridley Scott (type suggestions anyone? Silly and I think NTJ), who knows just how to pull at the emotional heart strings...
    According to the directors list in the PC and type board, he's INTP.
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    Fucking hell! I hate these emoticons! Can't portray emotion for shit!

    Excuse my language.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Compare his direction with someone like Ridley Scott (type suggestions anyone? Silly and I think NTJ), who knows just how to pull at the emotional heart strings...
    Oh, you are KIDDING me, right?

    One of Scott's most obvious strengths as a director is that he is "clean" -- he typically doesn't over-indulge in emotionality. (Just think about what a movie like Thelma and Louise might have been like in the hands of a more emotive/manipulative director.) I think Gladiator was the most where I've ever seen him go for emotive... but even then it was mainly through shoving us into Maximus' eyes and showing us the love he had for his family, coupled with the score. He typically prefers to show, not tell; and he tends to shy away from musical scores that would manipulate the audience... at least until the last few years (I haven't watched his most recent movies).

    He reminds me a lot of Michael Mann, although Mann is even more severe -- he lets the characters/actors tell the story and doesn't tell you how you're supposed to feel.

    Personally, I think they are both ST's.

    With The Dark Knight, he seemed to lose all sense of storytelling and pacing by choosing to include that ending narrative about TwoFace. Should've just let that angle continue on into another movie... I'm not one to complain about long films or long plane flights (in fact, people doing so is a major pet peeve of mine), but shit dragged on at the end, and was completely unnecessary.

    Nolan should hire me to make his films better.
    I guess that's the difference between those who actually make movie and those who critique them on obscure Internet forums... Opinions from us are a dime a dozen, but those guys are doing the work.

    Unfortunately, I'm a huge Batman fan, so I've been a little letdown by his direction.
    Dare I ask which Batman movies you actually thought were better? (Even the first one by Burton was at best marginal by conventional standards; and the quality certainly did not improve as time passed.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Sherlock Holmes View Post
    Fucking hell! I hate these emoticons! Can't portray emotion for shit!
    Excuse my language.
    More emotes, less language!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by InvisibleJim View Post
    INTJ says director is INTJ
    INTP says director is INTP
    ENTP says director is ENTP.
    Your theory, while conventionally cute, only makes sense if I'd think every director I like is an INTP.
    Which certainly is not even close to the truth.

    I'm even having trouble thinking of another INTP director right now -- most INTPs hate using directive skills, and being a movie director means a lot of interaction with other people, and overseeing of processes. You have to really develop a variety of skills most INTPs don't bother with until much later in life, to be a decent director... or know how to hire the right staff.
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