[NT] NT's, you are summoned yet again.

[ReflecTcelfeR]

When does making decisions with emotions fit better than reason in the eyes of NT's, if at all?

 

[ObeyBunny]

I've never found emotional thinking to be better than logical thinking.

 

[mrcockburn]

When you're ill.

For example, let's say that I know I should write my essay today instead of next week when it's almost due. If I'm currently hungover, I won't do my best work today.

It'd be best to go along with how I felt and save it until I recover, in order to DO better.

Needless to say, I get 'sick' a lot.

 

[ObeyBunny]

When you're ill.

For example, let's say that I know I should write my essay today instead of next week when it's almost due. If I'm currently hungover, I won't do my best work today.

It'd be best to go along with how I felt and save it until I recover, in order to DO better.

Needless to say, I get 'sick' a lot.

Yes, but you're still thinking logically when you make those decisions.

 

[ReflecTcelfeR]

Though it's logical he is using his emotions as a guide.

 

[ReflecTcelfeR]

A process can be logical and include an emotional base; I would just be concerned with the volatile nature that can occur with an emotional base.

 

[Oaky]

Perhaps some of my strongest values will takeover my mind for the decisions I make. Introverted feeling, I would guess. It may prevent me from doing certain things with a lack of ethical value no matter how rational it would seem.

 

[ReflecTcelfeR]

So perhaps this question needs to be re-worded... When do values overcome reason?

 

[Oaky]

So perhaps this question needs to be re-worded... When do values overcome reason?

Whenever the values are strong enough to overcome reason. The values tend to stay. So as long as my decisions to not contradict my strongest values, my emotions will not overcome my general thought process.

 

[ReflecTcelfeR]

So it's a threshold of sorts?

Makes sense.

Any examples of that occuring?

 

[durentu]

It really depends on the issue and there are rare cases where either absolute emotion or absolute reason is best.

If the issue deals with nature/universe, use mostly reason
If the issue deals with people, use mostly emotion

 

[Synarch]

When does making decisions with emotions fit better than reason in the eyes of NT's, if at all?

I prefer emotional thinking. It's easier to claim you were wrong because then you just have to claim that your feelings changed.

 

[Oaky]

So it's a threshold of sorts?

Makes sense.

Any examples of that occuring?

Well, you can call the rational parent who takes his time caring for his child in place of a more important matter an act of irrationality. The value of caring for the child is higher than doing the more important matter he had missed or postponed.

 

[ReflecTcelfeR]

Do you trust the emotions that you have? Wondering whether what you feel is how you feel about the subject you are discussing? I remember a description of INTP's saying that when an INTP argues they are trying to convince themselves as well as the person there accusation, or defense is made towards. Does this ring true with your own experiences?

 

[ReflecTcelfeR]

Synarch, I think you picked a very good choice of words for that one. I agree, wholeheartedly.

Oaky, what makes you abandon reason?

 

[Tallulah]

Sometimes in a relationship, the emotions have to win out over logic. For instance, moving to be with your loved one when you know it makes more financial sense to stay where you are. Showing them you care and are invested.

Also, choosing to hold your tongue because you care about someone when you know they're making an irrational decision and you know they just want your support rather than your sage advice.

 

[Oaky]

Oaky, what makes you abandon reason?

Since values are based on our emotions, it is not easy to logically explain the strength that beliefs and values can have over what is rational.

 

[ReflecTcelfeR]

They just are... This seems to be the quickest answer, but I'm sure a better one is hiding somewhere. No need to worry about it right now.

 

[ReflecTcelfeR]

Sometimes in a relationship, the emotions have to win out over logic. For instance, moving to be with your loved one when you know it makes more financial sense to stay where you are. Showing them you care and are invested.

Also, choosing to hold your tongue because you care about someone when you know they're making an irrational decision and you know they just want your support rather than your sage advice.

Alright, I understand this. What about basing your actions on emotions in regards to yourself (I hope that makes sense)?

 

[Tallulah]

Alright, I understand this. What about basing your actions on emotions in regards to yourself (I hope that makes sense)?

Well, I think an example of that might be choosing to take a chance on fulfilling a lifelong dream even though you know very few people succeed at it, etc. Knowing it's not exactly logical or "smart," but knowing you have to do it to satisfy a piece of your soul.