[NT] Any other NTs find poetry BORING??

[MacGuffin]

All this thread says is that a handful of so-called NTs are Philistines.

Agreed!

 

[onemoretime]

All this thread says is that a handful of so-called NTs are Philistines.

Theirs was quite the advanced civilization...

 

[mrcockburn]

All this thread says is that a handful of so-called NTs are Philistines.

This Philistine prefers reading war stories, philosophy, sci-fi, and non-fiction, danke schon.

I like visual art (EXCEPT for that modern art nonsense - I'm talking about art that doesn't look like someone threw up on an easel), and I love music of all sorts.

But reading sentimental stanza-ed trash about how old yellowed linens smell like Grandma?

NEIN danke. That WILL make me create "modern art" aka blowing chunks on the paper the poem is written on.

Aren't I classy?

 

[MacGuffin]

and I love music of all sorts.

With lyrics??? That rhyme?????

 

[mrcockburn]

With lyrics??? That rhyme?????

NO RHYMING, it reminds me of poetry.

 

[Fluffywolf]

I wish I could enjoy poetry, I'm just so apathetic about some things I have to be interested in it first. Maybe in the future.

Contradiction by the way, there is still hope for you.

 

[Resonance]

The request was for a demonstration. For some reason you attempted to prove your assertion by restating it in other words, which is of course circular reasoning. Therefore, once again: demonstration, please.

What?

This isn't worth it.

 

[Tamske]

I like some poetry. Paul Van Ostaijen is one of my favourites. He made a poem about a sewing machine, trying to capture the sounds it made. No meaning behind it - just rhytmical word-play. Awesome.
And there are - of course - the poems of one of my former professors: Alfred Warrinier... they are poems about math. Even the most die-hard NT can love that

I hate the in-depth analysis of poetry, trying to guess what the poet "meant". Same (even more) with prose, though - that author wanted to make the scene come alive with his details, he didn't want to "tell" us something with, of all things, the pattern of the pavement! I still can't pick up a Harry Mulish book thanks to some of my former teachers . I don't blame Mulish, but I'm still not able to break through that Pavlov reaction. Why weren't we allowed to enjoy the thing first and analyse later?

 

[mrcockburn]

I like some poetry. Paul Van Ostaijen is one of my favourites. He made a poem about a sewing machine, trying to capture the sounds it made. No meaning behind it - just rhytmical word-play. Awesome.
And there are - of course - the poems of one of my former professors: Alfred Warrinier... they are poems about math. Even the most die-hard NT can love that
QUOTE]

AHHH those poems actually sound great!! Why does my professor only assign stuff about sentimental romance old people memories?

 

[Blank]

I do not understand poetry.

Nor do I like it.

 

[JHBowden]

a haiku enters
into the forum of nerds
perplexity reigns.

 

[Orangey]

Hey PINKY. I never posted that second comment, whatever that nonsense means.

You think you can outsneak an entp?

Huh? The second comment was my encapsulation of your little explanation of induction. You were saying that you were able to come to the conclusion that poetry sucks (to you) because your experiences reading it have, so far, been sucky. And this contradicts your first comment that it is in your nature not to enjoy poetry.

A nature is something that is final, that doesn't change.
A conclusion reached by induction (especially a weak, intuitive one based on experience) is not final, is changeable.

To say that you dislike poetry because it is in your nature is to say that you will never, under any circumstances, enjoy poetry.
To say that you dislike poetry because your experience has demonstrated this tendency is to say that you are open to the possibility that you might, under different circumstances, enjoy poetry.

You can't say both at once.

This Philistine prefers reading war stories, philosophy, sci-fi, and non-fiction, danke schon.

I like visual art (EXCEPT for that modern art nonsense - I'm talking about art that doesn't look like someone threw up on an easel), and I love music of all sorts.

But reading sentimental stanza-ed trash about how old yellowed linens smell like Grandma?

NEIN danke. That WILL make me create "modern art" aka blowing chunks on the paper the poem is written on.

Aren't I classy?

Well bully for you.

I'm just saying that you have an irrational prejudice against poetry in general that is causing you to close your mind to the possibility of ever enjoying any. Why do that? What is gained by such a mentality?

Also, I'm not aiming this just at you. It's a fair question to anyone in this thread who has stated - straight-up - that they dislike poetry.

Also, I'm surprised how many people say that they can't "understand" poetry. What does this mean, exactly? That you can't understand the words? The meaning? The purpose? Because understanding the words and the purpose seem like fairly simple tasks. Of course, meaning can be trickier, but the indeterminacy of the text pretty much guarantees that any interpretation is right - so it can't be that difficult. I don't understand what you don't understand.

 

[Resonance]

a haiku enters
into the forum of nerds
perplexity reigns.

I don't think that you
realize just how nerdy
haiku tend to be.

 

[onceuponatime]

Roses are red
Violets are blue
If you enjoy this poem
NT Rationale is not for you

 

[Orangey]

I don't think that you
realize just how nerdy
haiku tend to be.

Do not most haiku
Require one more syllable
Than what you have here?

 

[Fluffywolf]

Do not most haiku
Require one more syllable
Than what you have here?

He who invented
this wonderful thing, haiku,
deserves to be shot.

 

[Litvyak]

Do not most haiku
Require one more syllable
Than what you have here?

I thought it was 5/7/5...

 

[Orangey]

I thought it was 5/7/5...

It is. The line "Realize just how nerdy" has six syllables. That's why I pointed it out. Although, I guess I could be wrong to count "realize" as having two instead of three syllables. Ree-lize v.s. Ree-uh-lize.

 

[Resonance]

It is. The line "Realize just how nerdy" has six syllables. That's why I pointed it out. Although, I guess I could be wrong to count "realize" as having two instead of three syllables. Ree-lize v.s. Ree-uh-lize.

same with require

"ree kwy urr"

 

[Orangey]

same with require

"ree kwy urr"

Yeah, you're right. :steam: Ballz.