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    Quote Originally Posted by Salt n' pepper View Post
    Yes. Writing is easier. But it's still messy. I'd rather not go there. If I have to, I prefer writing.

    I tend to send pictures of beautiful, things. And I do those little balls... <3
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    and yep yep to all that fi stuff
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    I'm curious... what's the corniest/cheesiest thing you've ever written VS said to someone?
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    I usually save words of regret for the paper/screen. If I have something cheezy to say you're hearing it from my mouth. I can't let something so personal be misconstrued. I don't do it very often, but when it happens I don't hold back... after writing this... have I ever done this?! Nope, probably not, but if I did, then, this is how I would do it... yeah. I have done it once... twice at the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uumlau View Post
    NTs don't "lack" the ability to apply emotions to our judgments. Rather, we generally refuse to. As for expressing emotions, it really depends on what you're talking about. NTs generally aren't "emotive", but if you never observe any emotions being expressed by an NT, you're just not watching. "T" just means that when you, the REAL you, decides to do something, it will generally be based on objective criteria/standards/reasoning, and not subjective (e.g., emotional) criteria/standards/reasoning. T doesn't mean one is smarter, or better at thinking or imply any degree of skill - it's just a personal preference.
    I liken the Ti/Ne to the Old Testament story of King Solomon and the baby. His solution to both claimants was to cut the baby in half knowing that the real mother would not choose this. His understanding of the potential responses could not have been had he not had a good sense of Fi himself. He chose to use that knowledge to present it objectively.

    Quote Originally Posted by uumlau View Post
    W/r to writing emotions, I think that may be more of an INxx thing, and to a degree an Fi thing. It's an Fi thing, partly, because Fi takes a while to ponder before being able to express emotions with any degree of precision. Usually, those who prefer Fi tend to become more quiet the more strongly they feel emotion. Writing, taking the time to write, gets around the inhibition in a couple of ways: 1) there's no one in your face, 2) you get some time to think about how you feel before you write it down.

    Personally, I find that my emotions, when I want to express them, are usually a big massive ball of incoherency when I look at them initially. If I'm lucky, I know whether they're positive or negative, but usually, they're just there. I let myself relax and ponder them for a while, and then they become more clear. Once I understand them well enough, I can communicate them, but I don't feel comfortable with most methods other than writing. Speech is just too brief, and it doesn't feel like what I'm saying is "really true", but only a vague approximation of what I feel. If I have the luxury of time, I can create something that describes how I feel, as long as the emotions aren't too intense. (Intensity implies that I've not processed them much, if at all, yet.) That creation is usually prose, but occasionally might be music or some other work of art.

    In spite of my ability to do so, it isn't easy. I am very much more comfortable talking about ideas than emotions, and oftentimes I will express emotions more abstractly and impersonally in order to describe what is going on, rather than make direct statements about what I feel.
    I prefer writing to talking because it allows me to choose my words more carefully. In most writing my objective is to not engender a defensive response. I prefer to let people know I care in this way too without being gushy.

    I also choose birthday and Christmas cards carefully based on the Fi message I wish to convey and, depending on the recipient, can be emotional in my choices, fitting the sentiment inside to the person and what I feel about them.
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    Writing is far easier. Verbal expression for me just sounds awful. Infantile, almost. When expressing verbally, I feel far more exposed and as though someone is going to counter attack right there. Which is bizarre, since if you think about it, when something is "in writing" it has more permanence, the record is always there.

    I've thought about it, and for me maybe it's easier to write because I can express without interruption. When verbal, the person is right there...their reaction can influence me as I put my thoughts together. Since I have poor command, it's easier for me to seem less incoherent when I am focused and uninterrupted.

    Not sure about the corniest thing I've ever said or written. I'd have to have my SO dig up my cards and notes. She keeps them in a basket.



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