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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    I never understood why you cant have a disorganized desk and plan ahead for the future at the same time
    Ha. Yeah. Exactly. A desk may look like a tornado went through it but since it's all organized by whatever system you used and basically you have no trouble finding anything on it since you planned it that way with every intention of finding things on it in the future.

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    I dont think this has anything to do with the functions. somebody with a pretty low J score would just be a J that had a generally laid back attitude towards things. Or someone with low P could just be an organized and take charge type of person. Thats really all that online tests test for anyway.

    I used to score like >90% J when I was way younger but now score closer to 60% because Ive just become a more relaxed and laid back person.

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    Well, the theory is that a person's functional order will affect their behavior, which to an extent is true, but could be messed up by the way functions are oriented in the different types (which in a few cases doesn't fit the conceptions Kiersey had of the types). For example, ENFPs are Te-tertiary, and as a result they have a slightly stronger tendency to be organized than ENTPs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReflecttcelfeR View Post
    How can you tell someone is using Extraverted Thinking? Technically I suppose I should recognize it within me, that being the main part of my cognition, but I can't seem to think in those terms. Is it organizing the outside world?
    It's multifaceted, as with all cognitive processes. Te includes the following (off the top of my head):

    -Organization, structure
    -Delegation
    -Effective management of resources and people
    -Nitpicking efficiency; ability to spot when an idea, object or principle works, and when it doesn't
    -Measuring goals by objective standards
    -Timing, keeping time
    -Linear thinking
    -Contingency awareness and planning
    -Reliance on empirical data, use of evidence to present concepts

    I'm not too good at the practical side of Te (organization and management), but I am strongly proficient at the analytical side (objective measuring, reliance on empirical data, timing, organized thinking). My posts on this forum are very Te-heavy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    I never understood why you cant have a disorganized desk and plan ahead for the future at the same time
    How are the two related? They're not even guided by the same function. Planning ahead is Ni (though Te provides support by ironing out the details and keeping an eye out for contingencies), and organization is Te.
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    I never understood why you cant have a disorganized desk and plan ahead for the future at the same time
    Because that would make you both a P and a J. Duh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by teslashock View Post
    Because that would make you both a P and a J. Duh!
    And then the universe would implode, just like when you divide by zero.


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    Hahaha, nice!

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    Thanks, everyone for your insights. I've pretty much decided on staying with the P's. Organization/Planning and I don't get along very well.

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