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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Herring View Post
    Ni porn!
    It did require the making of a connection that was not completely obvious.

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    Beautiful pictures for sure, but I couldn't possibly tell which are supposed to be feminine and which are masculine.
    The point wasn't to point to specific masculine or feminine energies for each picture (although, I suppose you could try doing that if you wanted to), but to point to the various energies within each picture, as well as the general energy that is California (as well as the various distinct energies for the various regions of California shown), as well as a sort of riff on the cliche about California girls being very susceptible/open to anything with the word "energy" (I tried to find the link to a comedy bit I once saw about this, but I can't remember who it was that said it). Many of the pictures were also meant to get one thinking about the bigger things: life, the universe, the good, the true, and the beautiful, great spans of time, permanence/impermanence, recurrence, and, as such, the Perennial philosophy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Herring View Post
    I'm tone death to spirituality and always have been.
    Just fyi, it's tone deaf, not death.

    The implication is that you cannot hear the tone.

    The ironic thing is, being tone deaf does not imply that there is no tone -- only that one is not able to hear it.

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    Thanks for the commentary. I am not completely uncultured though, just bad at spelling in, any language when I don't concentrate properly (as I have repeatedly mentioned).

    The point stands. I have trouble with the concept of energies and assume the California girl phenomenon can be explained by the favorable social climate for people with a tendency towards / interest in esoterics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Herring View Post
    I... assume the California girl phenomenon can be explained by the favorable social climate for people with a tendency towards / interest in esoterics.
    In the parlance of Ken Wilber, that would be a very lower right quadrant way of looking at/talking about it.

    There are other ways, and they tend to be more lively.

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    I can not exclude that possibility. However, liveliness is not a criterion for me. This is where the serpent is biting its own tail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Herring View Post
    I can not exclude that possibility. However, liveliness is not a criterion for me.



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    We prefer to be called Ti doms though, If you don't mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    I think part of the problem is that the Rationals are generally a more masculine group (well, not INTPs...).

    Just check the statistics -- we're dominantly male.

    The disproportion is ridiculous.

    Anyway, sexual polarity is such that masculinity is attracted to feminity, and feminity to masculinity.

    As such, equipping a female with a masculine personality is like putting a feminine personality in a male (like NF men, for the most part).

    While masculine NT females may feel some kind of sexual attraction for feminine males (due to their sexual polarity), not only are feminine men a smaller percentage of the population (metrosexuals shouldn't be considered feminine, but just neutered, really ) than masculine men, but, perhaps at a deeper, more biological level, even though an NT woman's masculinity may be attracted to femininity (in men, or in women), she may still have instinctual urges to be ravished by a strong, masculine man.

    But this creates a friction, because her masculinity will repel masculine men, like two sexual magnets of the same polar charge.

    And the feminine men who her masculinity might be attracted to, probably won't be able to fulfill all of her instinctual female desires.

    I can only imagine all the difficulties this would cause in romantic relationships.

    Feminine men and masculine women seem kinda just unfortunate in love.

    Kinda sad when you think about it.
    this "sexual polarity" you speak of is what the person is consciously aware of, and it's obvious by the fact that we project our unconscious traits onto a potential spouse (i.e., we project the side of us we're blind to)--so, just because the NF male is 'feminine" in a social/conscious state doesn't mean the masculine side is non-existent, and believe me, you may very well see that come out... especially in intimate situations (it's a very natural, very in-born/primal aspect).

    p.s.

    lol at the 'feminine NF' male (you wound me!)--just kidding, i get what you mean, but i gaurentee (sp?) you that most NF males don't see themselves as feminine... it's just that there's a made-up/fake social construct that was based off of biological necessity that we term 'feminine/masculine', and it is an overdone/overplayed evolutionary throw back to the dark ages. we have come a long way, and now we can redefine things that we have taken for reality when, in reality, those aspects existed within our minds and our own one-sided view as humans.

    2nd p.s.

    interesting thread ... i hope all of this hasn't already been covered!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EntangledLight View Post
    this "sexual polarity" you speak of is what the person is consciously aware of...
    Hmm...

    Honestly, I don't know how concious people necessarily are of it...



    Quote Originally Posted by EntangledLight View Post
    ...and it's obvious by the fact that we project our unconscious traits onto a potential spouse (i.e., we project the side of us we're blind to)--so, just because the NF male is 'feminine" in a social/conscious state doesn't mean the masculine side is non-existent, and believe me, you may very well see that come out... especially in intimate situations (it's a very natural, very in-born/primal aspect).
    Oh, yeah, I mean, I don't believe that.

    I believe both men and women dip in both feminine and masculine energies.

    I just believe F men tend to dip in feminine energy more than do T men.

    (And the same goes for F females vs T females, imo.)

    Quote Originally Posted by EntangledLight View Post
    lol at the 'feminine NF' male (you wound me!)--just kidding, i get what you mean, but i gaurentee (sp?) you that most NF males don't see themselves as feminine... it's just that there's a made-up/fake social construct that was based off of biological necessity that we term 'feminine/masculine', and it is an overdone/overplayed evolutionary throw back to the dark ages. we have come a long way, and now we can redefine things that we have taken for reality when, in reality, those aspects existed within our minds and our own one-sided view as humans.
    Yeah, sorry, I just can't accept this as fact.

    Once again (I have a feeling this might become a saying of mine), in the parlance of Ken Wilber, this is just Green Consciousness (i.e., Post-Modernism) speaking its belief as if its truth.

    Quote Originally Posted by EntangledLight View Post
    interesting thread ... i hope all of this hasn't already been covered!
    Well, honestly, this thread had been dead for some two years before it was revived a day or two ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Well, honestly, this thread had been dead for some two years before it was revived a day or two ago.
    What is the problem with "thread necromancy" anyway? Somewhere in new member guidelines is the suggestion that, before one starts a new thread, one search for existing threads on the same topic. The implication is that one should post in the existing thread rather than start another. What is the statute of limitations for old threads?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    What is the problem with "thread necromancy" anyway? Somewhere in new member guidelines is the suggestion that, before one starts a new thread, one search for existing threads on the same topic. The implication is that one should post in the existing thread rather than start another. What is the statute of limitations for old threads?
    I have less of a problem with thread necromancy in and of itself, so much as thread necromancy occurring without the necromancer realizing it (add on top of such unrecognized necromancy an asinine accusation, and that pushes things well over the edge).

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