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    The masculine, the feminine, energies?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    The masculine, the feminine, energies?
    You just need to spend some time in California.












































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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverie View Post
    That is so sexist my head just exploded.

    That's not because a talk is sexist that necessarly it is wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    Thank you for that extreme twisting of my statement into something I didn't say.

    You seem to be very good at that.




    Good for you.



    You mean the post where I never mentioned gender once? Thanks.

    What a delightful feminine dance you've done trying to avoid admitting you were in the wrong.

    The masculine thing to do would've been to say, "Oh, sorry. Clearly I done fucked up."
    WHy would that be a masculine thing? I haven't backed down because to me it seemed you had an underlying idea in your posts about men being manly a certain way (passive, calm, cerebral) and women being feminine in a certain way (flimsy, emotional, illogical) which I think is a poor stereotype and then from that concluding that INTJ women must have a hard time in the dating world because by that definition the are "unfeminine". Then I saw what I thought was a reference to spiritual concepts and erroneous at that and I have a problem with such. I usually have problems on the idea level because it in turns creates personal philosophies, which when you discuss them can perpetrate more stereotypes and also peoples ideas influence their behavior very concretely, like you just drawing a conclusion about me not "admitting I'm clearly wrong= female". If I'm wrong maybe I'm just a ditz. What has the inside of my pants have to do with it. I'm sure you're wrong at times too and think you're right and press the issue. Are you then "being feminine"?
    As for that idea that man is the watcher and the woman the the one who is being watched stinks. The actual spiritual of the watcher has none to do with gender.
    On top of that the male energy would not be passive and calm, since that is how you seemed to define maleness as a kind of a stable stoic force. Symbol for male energy is more so the Sun, active force, yang bright, positive, dynamic, expanding and female energy would be yin would be dark, passive, downward, cold, contracting, and weak. So in some sense you could claim all introverts would have feminine energy.
    I admit it's only what I thought I sensed while reading your post that you may have such ideas which I don't think really translate into the realm of any type of relationship advice. Is it so or am I wrong? If I'm wrong then I am wrong. Then I apologize.
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
    Masculine energy =/= males... wow. Masculinity is not the same as being a man. What the hell.

    You do understand the concept of masculinity and femininity, right @Reverie? There are feminine males and masculine females just the same as there are masculine males and feminine females. It's an energy. He wasn't talking about the actual genders.
    Do we all agree on what male or female energy is? Do we agree on how to determine the degree of masculinity or femininity of someone? Do you agree with the descriptions he gave of femininity and masculinity. I don't really. Ideas and principles are the very things that define why we speak of things the way we speak of them. I don't agree with the principles I thought were behind his comments on what is quintessentially male and what is female. I believe in any case that those energies are all mixed in each individual human being.

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    You clearly don't get it, despite the fact that it's been explained to you multiple times by multiple people.

    As such, I'm done here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    You just need to spend some time in California.

    <lots of incredible photos>
    But how are they relevant to your point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coriolis View Post
    But how are they relevant to your point?
    To profound thinkers, a slight indication is sufficient to discover great truths.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perennial_philosophy

    *can't find the last link about California girls and energy*

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    Do genes and hormones influence how we act, think and perceive things? Yes.
    Do I believe in the existence of "energies"? No.
    Do I believe "the feminine" or "the masculine" exist beyond simple biology or shaky social constructs? Hell no.


    PS: Beautiful pictures for sure, but I couldn't possibly tell which are supposed to be feminine and which are masculine. I'm tone death to spirituality and always have been.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Herring View Post
    PS: Beautiful pictures for sure, but I couldn't possibly tell which are supposed to be feminine and which are masculine. I'm tone death to spirituality and always have been.
    Agreed. I still need to check out the wiki link. If the photos are supposed to represent masculine and feminine energy, though, I can already say I see both energies in each. But my view of masc/fem is different from what has been expressed so far by some. To me, masculine is active, outgoing, bright; feminine is passive, receptive, dark. These are often represented by the sun and moon respectively. So, personally, when I am being introspective and contemplative, ruminating on ideas I am using feminine energy. When I act in the world to bring those dreams and plans to fruition, I am using masculine energy. That is just a tip of the iceberg.
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