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    You'reWrongI'mRight is indeed right. Equal partnership or GTFO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi'xer View Post
    Good to see the distinction being drawn between a trading dispensation versus the other one which I think is the better outlook.. referred to by an ENTJ female as an idealistic one or a less/non realistic one.

    Also, ppl tend to see this in 'relationships' but it holds true more across the board than not.. just a matter of perspective and underlying factors that dictate the fundamentals that shape an outlook.
    it's not really less/non realistic to me. Like I mentioned before. I try as hard as possible to give the people I care about whatever they want; however, when I feel like I'm being taken advantage of, I don't allow it to continue.

    The showing of genuine appreciation is good enough for me, that will keep me happy. So long as I feel like I can rely on someone when I need it is also generally a rule.
    If I can't, then I'll know when I'm being taken advantage of, thus, putting me in an unhealthy, one-sided relationship.

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    I think relationships are always hard, for everyone. But yes, it did take me 33 years to maintain a level of interest beyond a few weeks. And it was with another NT.

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    I've never been in one. I am not very articulate, so I would not be a fancy boyfriend or anything, but what I would be is devoted.

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    Yes. For me it's very hard to find someone who stimulates me intellectually, and to then maintain a relationship with them. I have a very difficult time trying to figure out how I even feel about someone to begin with, coupled with the fact that I also lose interest in people far too easily makes it that bit harder (makes it difficult on the other person too. Sometimes I worry that I'm stringing someone along while I figure out what the hell I'm doing, which can end up hurting them). Still, I'm young yet and have plenty of time to sort myself out... I hope
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    Oh wait, I'm not a female. Oops. Well surely my comment could apply to females as well.

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    In some ways they're harder because we're less relationship-focused, in others easier, for the same reason - we don't obsess over them as some women do.
    I've never felt I needed to be in one to feel complete, but I recognise the benefits at the same time.
    I think I'm hard to be in a relationship with. Very hard. I'm hard-wired for independence and self-sufficiency. I need A LOT of space or I feel smothered and panicky. I know my own worth and I'm pretty uncompromising. I seldom meet anyone I'm interested in.
    Quote Originally Posted by You'reWrongI'mRight View Post
    I may not be the most sympathetic person( very bad at it in-fact), but if I am one thing, its empathetic.
    I'm very good at putting myself in peoples shoes, and listening to what they have to say. I will go out of my way to make sure they feel like they have someone to rely on; however, it seems that most people, including some of my best friends don't reciprocate often.
    In a relationship, this is one of the worst things ever. I need to know I can rely on someone for support when I need to vent about something, I rarely do it anyways, so when I want to, you know it's important to me.
    They never made me feel comfortable doing so, and the rational part of me alway said " This is something that can be solved easily, you don't need to discuss it". I ended up keeping everything to myself, and felt like I was only there for them, and not myself, basically, just along for the ride.

    This is why I rarely date anymore. I don't date anyone that I don't know very well, and who know me just as much. They know what kind of person I am, and how I think AHEAD of time; vice versa.
    Second all of that.

    Sometimes relationships feel more like charity than something mutually beneficial.
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    Gosh, the world looks so small from up here on my high horse of menstruation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by You'reWrongI'mRight View Post
    I may not be the most sympathetic person( very bad at it in-fact), but if I am one thing, its empathetic.
    I'm very good at putting myself in peoples shoes, and listening to what they have to say. I will go out of my way to make sure they feel like they have someone to rely on; however, it seems that most people, including some of my best friends don't reciprocate often.
    In a relationship, this is one of the worst things ever. I need to know I can rely on someone for support when I need to vent about something, I rarely do it anyways, so when I want to, you know it's important to me.
    They never made me feel comfortable doing so, and the rational part of me alway said " This is something that can be solved easily, you don't need to discuss it". I ended up keeping everything to myself, and felt like I was only there for them, and not myself, basically, just along for the ride
    . ( this is when I was still really young, inexperienced, and had a hard time being myself)
    +1 everything, esp. bold. But not so much on the the empathetic part. Working hard on it though. I can easily put myself in other peoples shoes, but I rarely have any feelings about it.

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    Hmm.. I wonder if we're "tough" because people let us down, or if people let us down because we're "tough"...
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    Gosh, the world looks so small from up here on my high horse of menstruation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan Le Fay View Post
    Hmm.. I wonder if we're "tough" because people let us down, or if people let us down because we're "tough"...
    No , I'm 90% certain people let me down becuase I'm "tough"

    luckily I'm pretty self aware

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