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    I was just being outspoken and passionate!

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    Go do it in the Passive Men Suck thread on your home channel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan Le Fay View Post
    Go do it in the Passive Men Suck thread on your home channel.
    You're gonna make Jack cry again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    What's the difference between outspokenness and criticism?
    For me personally I am outspoken in the sense that I am not afraid to tell my BF the truth about a situation or be honest about what I'm thinking, but I don't cross the line into criticism which I feel results when you're not only expressing your opinion but passing it off as correct and requiring the other person to submit to it or else. That kind of crap I don't do.

    I typically find that I have no trouble attracting guys but in the end they mostly want to change me into what I could be and not what I am. I'm not receptive to that and I will end the relationship immediately at the first sign.
    The biggest complaints I get are that I don't try enough (in relation to my appearance and dressing up). I was raised by my dad so I'm not girly and my hobbies aren't girly and for some men that's a problem for the long term...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    You're gonna make Jack cry again.
    There was a point when he actually stopped whining?
    Quote Originally Posted by spin-1/2-nuclei View Post
    I typically find that I have no trouble attracting guys but in the end they mostly want to change me into what I could be and not what I am. I'm not receptive to that and I will end the relationship immediately at the first sign.
    I don't think I've ever met a man who didn't want to change me. Even men I wasn't in relationships with!
    Guess we just attract the Pygmalion types. That's all our own fault, naturally.
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    I won't say that I haven't wanted anyone to change for me, but I believe I would characterize this, for myself, as wanting to understand why someone acted a certain way. If I didn't understand why they act they way they do I'd call the action into question and even if they didn't have a reasoning, as long as they understood it was pointless I could accept it... yeah. I accepted early on the odds of someone actually changing for me was ultimately one in a million, this leaves acceptance as the only answer. Live and let live.

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    I'm all for live and let live if she will...
    Dreams are best served manifest and tangible.

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    There should be a positive counterpart to this thread. What do we love about relationships and how are we good at them?

    I don't know where analysing/pointing things out/questioning ends and criticism begins to men.

    There's criticism(1) "the practice of analyzing, classifying, interpreting, or evaluating" and there's criticism(2) "the act or an instance of making an unfavourable or severe judgment, comment, etc."

    I think they're very different things.

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    It does need to be mutual, this is true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uytuun View Post
    There should be a positive counterpart to this thread. What do we love about relationships and how are we good at them?

    I don't know where analysing/pointing things out ends and criticism begins to men.

    There's criticism(1) "the practice of analyzing, classifying, interpreting, or evaluating" and there's criticism(2) "the act or an instance of making an unfavourable or severe judgment, comment, etc."

    I think they're very different things.
    The first one often has the word 'constructive' prepended and I can't blame a person for using that. It's the second one that will drive anyone crazy.
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