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    Default Society's FP/TJ Stereotype

    Hello, I've noticed that society's general expectations are that all Fs be Ps and that all Ts be Js, any advice on getting past that in any given areas? That is, functioning in a logical manner in a loose situation that expects feeling of you. Although this edit is most likely made while blind to a few replies, I'd also like to use this form to discuss the reasons for said stereotype.
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    i've never really thought about that. how exactly have you felt that?
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    People seem to see either a "Vulcan" mentality, or a "Free Spirit" Mentality, and never leave any room for something like an "Odd Intellectual" or "Driven Planner" type of person. Sorry about the "Driven Planner" description, I couldn't think of any other way to hypothetically describe the concept of xxFJ
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    I've never noticed those stereotypes personally.
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    yeah i don't see it either...you find it confuses people that you're a logical easy going person?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    yeah i don't see it either...you find it confuses people that you're a logical easy going person?
    Quote Originally Posted by tcda View Post
    I've never noticed those stereotypes personally.
    Quote Originally Posted by Invisiblemonkey View Post
    People seem to see either a "Vulcan" mentality, or a "Free Spirit" Mentality, and never leave any room for something like an "Odd Intellectual" or "Driven Planner" type of person. Sorry about the "Driven Planner" description, I couldn't think of any other way to hypothetically describe the concept of xxFJ
    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    i've never really thought about that. how exactly have you felt that?
    I see what the OP is saying. I'll put in reverse though to make more sense:

    "If you're very J...people assume you must be T"
    "If you're very P...people assume you must be F"

    I think people do often make these assumptions (coming from an XXFJ male). I'm guessing these assumptions exist because our culture likes to think of F as the irrational and scattered cognition, and that T is the orderly cognition. I also think that one of the criticisms of MBTI was that F and P, T and J were found to not be "statistically independent" variables like E/I were. Doesnt that just beg the question though: "what if FP and TJ are just more common, yet still independent????"

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    Think psycho pass or parasyte

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    Most of society doesn't know of the MBTI to start with.
    But regardless, Ts are associated with Js because people misthink T means planning ahead, and F means being able to "perceive" feeligns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1010830 View Post
    F means being able to "perceive" feeligns.
    Eh? What does that have to do with a supposed "FP" stereotype? FJ types can also be very adept at reading feelings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by /DG/ View Post
    Eh? What does that have to do with a supposed "FP" stereotype? FJ types can also be very adept at reading feelings.
    You are misinterpreting my grammar.
    I said people misunderstand F to be correlated with P because they think F means to "perceive feelings".
    I did not said F is always related to P.
    What part of it did you not understand?

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