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  • people are stupid by nature

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  • it's the enviroment

    4 30.77%
  • it's the choices they made

    3 23.08%
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    Default people idiots or a bad enviroment

    are people born idiots and choose to learn to overcome their idiocy or is man simply born into an enviroment that favors idiots over geniuses

    i have to know. i want to better myself but i don't know how to approach this issue in relation to this question
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    Quote Originally Posted by coolio_free View Post
    are people born idiots and choose to learn to overcome their idiocy or is man simply born into an enviroment that favors idiots over geniuses. i have to know. i want to better myself but i don't know how to approach this issue in relation to this question
    What criteria are you using to separate idiocy from genius?

    (Obviously if the "idiots" are proliferating, they must be doing something right in terms of natural selection, and the "geniuses" are not.)
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    1. Define your terms.

    2. Your choices aren't mutually exclusive.

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    Ils se d�merdent, les mecs: trop bon, trop con..................................MY BLOG!

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    The old nature vs nurture thing? For pretty much every non-physical trait we possess, genetics gives us the bricks, while the environment builds the house. A change in either will dramatically change the final outcome. Sometimes genetic makeup is more or less significant, but both factors are always in play, as far as I know.

    In this case, some people may be born with a natural predisposition, but if it isn't nurtured, it will die out; whereas others may be lacking this predisposition but seek it out anyway.

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    idiocy would be being born acting on what you see in front of you rather than looking deeper into the issue, never acting on rationale. things like that. i use genius to represent the opposite.

    as far as enviroment goes what i'm saying there is that could it possibly be that the few intelligent people who do speak out are not accepted by society so to be accepted they simply act on the level of intelligence of the peers they want to be accepted by.

    what i mean by choices is that could it possibly be that the choices made by the people lead to this outcome

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    Quote Originally Posted by substitute View Post
    lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    What criteria are you using to separate idiocy from genius?

    (Obviously if the "idiots" are proliferating, they must be doing something right in terms of natural selection, and the "geniuses" are not.)
    I get the impression that the set titled "geniuses" represents the poster of the OP, and the set titled "idiots" represents everyone else in the world.

    I hope that impression is incorrect, but one never knows, do one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by oberon View Post
    I get the impression that the set titled "geniuses" represents the poster of the OP, and the set titled "idiots" represents everyone else in the world.

    I hope that impression is incorrect, but one never knows, do one...
    idiocy would be being born acting on what you see in front of you rather than looking deeper into the issue, never acting on rationale. things like that. i use genius to represent the opposite.

    as far as enviroment goes what i'm saying there is that could it possibly be that the few intelligent people who do speak out are not accepted by society so to be accepted they simply act on the level of intelligence of the peers they want to be accepted by.

    what i mean by choices is that could it possibly be that the choices made by the people lead to this outcome not sure if your right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by substitute View Post

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