[NT] What are your IQs?

[EcK]

Anyway, the major flaw of a system designed to rate intelligence is that equating intelligence to iq to a too high degree would only be a proper move if you created a species based on some requirements, then such benchmarks would apply if you took the position of the 'outside observer' (because obviously you can't really have that).

But evolution just doesn't work that way, there's no goal to it:what works just does.
Which's why even though all humans brains are all in all very similar, they're still different enough to fuck up any attempt to define virtual absolutes such as intelligence

We should just give up that word and call tests for what is tested, not intelligence but this and that type of problem solving based on n constraints

 

[uumlau]

Yeah, but he had the huge advantage of being an entp

btw, what are the sources for feynmann.?
I find that when I dig into it, alot of such data don't have any real basis.

Sourced WIKI reference for Feynman's IQ.

Definitely food for thought: there's no way that based on what IQ claims to measure that he "really is" 125. I'd be interested in his other standardized test scores (e.g., whatever passed for SATs in those days) for comparison. I'd suspect a very strong math and perhaps an average/weak verbal, perhaps.

 

[EcK]

thanks

I'd suspect a very strong math and perhaps an average/weak verbal, perhaps.

yeah that was my first thought too

I think by the way, that alot of the 'estimated iqs' of historical figures is bullshit, they assume a too high correlation between specific gifts and general intelligence. Einstein for example had a clear gift as spatial thinking, but does it have to mean that he had 160 iq?

 

[EcK]

Or take René Descartes. Even though he had his iq estimated at 185 and sure had a gift for mathematics, when you look at his philosophy it's just, baffling that anybody would publish that garbage. In fact I suspect they wouldn't have if it wasn't for the period's (and still lively) confirmation bias relating to the good old 'I'm special /have a soul/whatever' wishful thinking.

He made unexplained assumptions just after describing how he only bases his philosophy on how he only uses what he can be sure of knowing (such as the "cogito ergo sum").

The logical construction of his arguments was often lacking and how often he missed major holes in his arguments was just comical if quickly repetitive.
That's not superior intelligence, that's specialisation at the cost of general intelligence

 

[FDG]

Sourced WIKI reference for Feynman's IQ.

Definitely food for thought: there's no way that based on what IQ claims to measure that he "really is" 125. I'd be interested in his other standardized test scores (e.g., whatever passed for SATs in those days) for comparison. I'd suspect a very strong math and perhaps an average/weak verbal, perhaps.

I reckon he won by a huge margin the math olympics (NYC math olympics if I remember correctly), thus I suppose he did have a skewed distribution among his "types of intelligence".

 

[SolitaryWalker]

The logical construction of his arguments was often lacking and how often he missed major holes in his arguments was just comical if quickly repetitive.
That's not superior intelligence, that's specialisation at the cost of general intelligence

Mathematics and philosophy have a great deal in common because both subjects deals with abstract problems that can often be solved without an appeal to a great deal of empirical observation. Many mathematicians have taken an interest in philosophy, yet when they tried to write philosophy, what they came up with turned out incoherent. Descartes was not a rare case.

 

[EcK]

math doesn't equal performance iq (or however u call it in english)
These tests are mostly spatial, and yes, it is correlated but relation isn't identity

 

[EcK]

Mathematics and philosophy have a great deal in common because both subjects deals with abstract problems that can often be solved without an appeal to a great deal of empirical observation. Many mathematicians have taken an interest in philosophy, yet when they tried to write philosophy, what they came up with turned out incoherent. Descartes was not a rare case.

Maths are a more tamed system, I'm simplifying here but, you have everything you need when u do maths, you don't need to have as great of a capacity to connect and make up concepts based on a very wide range of types of information and methods.
Maths are more linear, and you just can't think of everything and include it into a concept in a narrow linear fashion, you're bound to miss alot of elements, or treat your philosophy as an equation where you expect the result before doing the thinking.

 

[King sns]

We're still arguing over IQ's I see.

 

[KDude]

Yeah, but he had the huge advantage of being an entp

btw, what are the sources for feynmann.?
I find that when I dig into it, alot of such data don't have any real basis.

i've seen it tossed about a few times, but all i can find atm is a biography that wikipedia (don't shoot!!) makes reference to. Gleick, James (1992), Genius: The Life and Science of Richard Feynman

either way, probably a good read.

[edit] it'd be funny if true though... proving that entps need not necessarily be stellar geniuses. just highly intelligent -enough to test what Ne just pulled out of the ENTPs ass.

 

[Risen]

Abouts 12^2 - 4 would be mine. Doesn't mean a whole lot imo.

 

[Rainne]

Everyone knows it's EQ that matters.

 

[Unique]

Never done an IQ test because it doesn't prove anything

 

[lunalum]

OVER NINE THOUSAND!!!

>9000

Well fine then, mine is OVER NINE THOUSAND ONE!!!

Abouts 12^2 - 4 would be mine. Doesn't mean a whole lot imo.

It at least means that you are awesome at taking IQ tests, but I don’t know if it means anything else.

And mine is 10^5 -99882

the answer key, of course:
A B B A B C A D B B C D B D
Write this sequence of letters on your forearm. Now, you are wise as well.

Yay, if those tests were multiple-choice and untimed, my IQ result would be WIN =P

At my prime at age 15, my IQ was 114. And I have ALWAYS struggled with math and spelling, mostly because of my Dyslexia.
I was a High C- Low B student my entire life.

Finally, an INTJ with an IQ below Einstein’s estimate =P

And you struggled with school too, that is also a first… don’t worry, we can pwn all those people who get stuff easily, very shortly....

 

[knight]

Intp central?

 

[lunalum]

^ Is this a response to me?

 

[Synapse]

My IQ's are terrific. I have sets of them, its MQ, multidimensional quotient to and l EQQ, emotional quintessential quotient that's got it going on. Don't get me started on SQ, sexual quotient and LQ, love quotient. I would love it if I had those more often but hay fate, destiny, parmigiana cheese decrees something about space time continuum...vortex...must float some air and UQ, universal quotient.

 

[Tamske]

Depends on the test. I score below average on "complete the sequence" questions and above average on reading or mathematical problems. I've been tested in the last year of high school (no, I don't remember my score) and 50% of the questions were "complete the sequence" ones. The person who gave career advice pointed it out to me.
I answered: "Well, I'd like to study physics. I guess there'll be more problems than sequences in the subject." He agreed
(I'm still of the opinion that being good at reading and math problems is way more useful than being good at completing sequences )

 

[animenagai]

On the typical, reasonable, online test, I get 120-130. Of course I've gotten the 140-150 crazy online scores as well, but who hasn't? At this point in my life, I am very happy with just having certain strengths and weaknesses, rather than a high generic IQ. I was talking to a friend a few weeks ago who isn't only doing his masters in Psych but have tested EMINENT in IQ tests. None of the current IQ tests even come close to measuring his capacity. He told me that he figures I have an IQ of 140+. That's very nice, but probably not true. It just so happens that night that we were talking about philosophy a whole lot and that of course is my strength. I do very well in conceptual analysis and insight specifically. As long as I have my strengths, why would I give a shit about what my IQ test is?

 

[wildcat]

I feel so inferior on here, because people keep talking about getting A grades all the time with no effort in school and such. I am not so lucky. I get maybe 1 or 2 As and the rest are Bs and Cs. Even if it's just the (less reliable I know) online tests, what IQs have you scored? I usually get around 130.

Einstein and Feynman reached scarcely 126.
Jewish names. What do you know.
You score so much better!
Take it easy now. Drop in the Club. Play some golf. Tip the underlings.
Acquiesce to your class.
Everybody does.