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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    Intuitives will score higher then sensors, because the IQ test favors those cognative processes, this creates an biased or limited view of the term intelligence.
    This.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    Intuitives will score higher then sensors, because the IQ test favors those cognative processes, this creates a biased or limited view of the term intelligence.
    I dislike this criticism of IQ tests. It's like complaining a 100m race doesn't adequately measure upper body strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    I dislike this criticism of IQ tests. It's like complaining a 100m race doesn't adequately measure upper body strength.
    To add on your simile, the critisism is because it's like people say that a 100m race adequatly measures upper body strength.

    So it's not the test itself I critisize, but the way people use it as a tool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    To add on your simile, the critisism is because it's like people say that a 100m race adequatly measures upper body strength.

    So it's not the test itself I critisize, but the way people use it as a tool.
    That I'll agree with.

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    I have never taken an IQ test, and am undecided if I ever will. Part of me is curious; part of me rejects any objective validity to the test itself and therefore believe it would be a waste of time and money.

    Then again, it would be fun to join Mensa and mock it, were my IQ up to par.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    Yup, IQ is mostly horsepoo. I once took a semi-official like test, (with time limits and the such) and scored 138. But I was younger and unaware of the true dimensions that make up the concept of IQ. A realization that left me utterly and completely disinterested in even bothering ever testing again.

    Intuitives will score higher then sensors, because the IQ test favors those cognative processes, this creates a biased or limited view of the term intelligence. Not to mention that even people with seriously high IQ's can manage to accomplish nothing. And the ones with lower IQ's can still accomplish almost anything. So there is no apparant practical use of knowing ones IQ. Basicly, if you know your IQ, then everyone that is say 35 points above or below you, has near similar potential than you have (the actually differences between people usually lie with their motivations but IQ alone is not much of a variable in this.). More than 35 difference? Okay, you'll probably have the advantage. Still, it's pretty pointless and should probably just be called the Intuitive quotient. Instead of the Intelligence quotient.
    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    I dislike this criticism of IQ tests. It's like complaining a 100m race doesn't adequately measure upper body strength.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffywolf View Post
    To add on your simile, the critisism is because it's like people say that a 100m race adequatly measures upper body strength.

    So it's not the test itself I critisize, but the way people use it as a tool.
    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    That I'll agree with.
    I fully understand these points, and I think you put it better than most, Fluffy, but the fact of the matter is: show me an animal with iNtuitive-type intelligence. Cuz I can show you a bunch that have Sensor-type intelligence. As much as I am against the idiots who think all iNtuitives are smarter or better than all Sensors, I think it's likewise idiotic to just deny that there's nothing *different* (and I mean that in a particular way) about iNtuitive intelligence. Intuitive intelligence, simply put, is higher up on the evolutionary ladder. It is a higher order thinking. We did not start as iNtuitives, and then became Sensors. We started as Sensors and then became iNtuitives. As I said before, I reject simplistic notions about this matter. But nothing I've seen thus far, and, frankly, I've seen plenty, has shown me anything different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathustra View Post
    I fully understand these points, and I think you put it better than most, Fluffy, but the fact of the matter is: show me an animal with iNtuitive-type intelligence. Cuz I can show you a bunch that have Sensor-type intelligence. As much as I am against the idiots who think all iNtuitives are smarter or better than all Sensors, I think it's likewise idiotic to just deny that there's nothing *different* (and I mean that in a particular way) about iNtuitive intelligence. Intuitive intelligence, simply put, is higher up on the evolutionary ladder. It is a higher order thinking. We did not start as iNtuitives, and then became Sensors. We started as Sensors and then became iNtuitives. As I said before, I reject simplistic notions about this matter. But nothing I've seen thus far, and, frankly, I've seen plenty, has shown my anything different.
    Last I checked, you are either born a sensor or an intuitive and you remain that way your entire incarnation, incapable of change or evolution, and although you could evolve functions such as intuition to a higher state, whether or not it is a preference is predetermined.

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    Individuals don't evolve in the same way species do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by senza_tema View Post
    Individuals don't evolve in the same way species do.
    Oh I think I get it now, that the reference to evolving intution was not on the short term level of one incarnation, but was part of the spiritual evolution of man on the cosmic scale of the aeons.

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