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    Quote Originally Posted by themightybob View Post
    I hate school, I am a straight D student despite the fact that my SAT scores are in the top 5 percentile in every category with the exception of math( in which i am still above average). I hate my teachers in particular, just about all of them are narrow-minded idiots; last year i got detention for defiance after arguing with a teacher that the country of syria was in asia, he seemed to think it was in africa. I get wrote-up for defiance nearly every month. I have developed a deep hatred for the public school system in america.
    I feel you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodgrief View Post
    I feel you.
    I feel *for* you.

    4/10 see me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nancynobullets View Post
    I feel *for* you.

    4/10 see me
    I think I feel you is the right phrase.

    It means the same as I hear you except it's more of an understanding the way they feel than just understanding the situation.

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    I'm not an NT; But I like school. I actually like the teachers and think I can be friends. I think they're intelligent ..

    What is wrong with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ming View Post
    I'm not an NT; But I like school. I actually like the teachers and think I can be friends. I think they're intelligent ..

    What is wrong with me.
    You are pretty lucky if all your teachers are intelligent. I usually get 1 or 2 smart teachers a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodgrief View Post
    You are pretty lucky if all your teachers are intelligent. I usually get 1 or 2 smart teachers a year.
    Maybe it's because I go to a nerd school; a famous high-ranked selective school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Game Master Near View Post
    I think alot of my peers are intelligent just as my teachers. I believe I learn more from googling random subjects on the internet. And I enjoy it more.

    So discuss!
    I could have written that exact post! How's this for similarity?

    Though, I've only recently figured out (you know, after two decades in school) that the problem seems to be with the structure rather than myself. I was raised in a very educational-focused, authoritarian background, and believed for years that there was something wrong with my style of thinking. I needed to be more disciplined, and less of your average space-cadet. But then, I couldn't understand why I'd absorb information so quickly on my own terms. Give me an objective, a deadline, and I'll be an expert on the subject before you know it.

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    Moreover, here are some of my issues with school (not to say this structure can't be effective for other students):

    - How an incomplete understanding of theory and its development can get rewarded. "Plug and chug" the right numbers is all that matters on exams.

    - Fast knowledge is preferred over slow knowledge. Big picture questions are often shot down as irrelevant topics to the course material. (Why are we learning this if has nothing to do with what may happen later?)

    - Teachers are occasionally ineffective when adapting to different modes of processing information. I had several tell me, "Just memorize the problems, and practice [blindly, I presume ] until you get good at it," or "Why don't you spend two hours studying for each hour spent in class?" No, no, no. I understand the importance of working hard, but I really need to find a good strategy.

    - Lectures can simply be incomprehensible, disorganized, too detailed, or linear. It's better to make your own study guide from differing resources, and compare that to the course syllabus. Sometimes I like jumping from topic to topic within a theme.

    - Some professors seemed to be having a heart-attack (i.e - a loss at words) when I asked them about real-life applications of the ideas we learned.

    - And so on.

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    At the bottom-line, I mostly deal with being in a disadvantageous position, instead of quitting when the circumstances become unyielding. If one method doesn't work for me, I just seek out another one. As long as I show the professor that my knowledge is up to the appropriate level, most don't mind how I get there.
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    Thought it was an absolute crock of shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lethe View Post
    I could have written that exact post! How's this for similarity?

    Though, I've only recently figured out (you know, after two decades in school) that the problem seems to be with the structure rather than myself. I was raised in a very educational-focused, authoritarian background, and believed for years that there was something wrong with my style of thinking. I needed to be more disciplined, and less of your average space-cadet. But then, I couldn't understand why I'd absorb information so quickly on my own terms. Give me an objective, a deadline, and I'll be an expert on the subject before you know it.

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    Moreover, here are some of my issues with school (not to say this structure can't be effective for other students):

    - How an incomplete understanding of theory and its development can get rewarded. "Plug and chug" the right numbers is all that matters on exams.

    - Fast knowledge is preferred over slow knowledge. Big picture questions are often shot down as irrelevant topics to the course material. (Why are we learning this if has nothing to do with what may happen later?)

    - Teachers are occasionally ineffective when adapting to different modes of processing information. I had several tell me, "Just memorize the problems, and practice [blindly, I presume ] until you get good at it," or "Why don't you spend two hours studying for each hour spent in class?" No, no, no. I understand the importance of working hard, but I really need to find a good strategy.

    - Lectures can simply be incomprehensible, disorganized, too detailed, or linear. It's better to make your own study guide from differing resources, and compare that to the course syllabus. Sometimes I like jumping from topic to topic within a theme.

    - Some professors seemed to be having a heart-attack (i.e - a loss at words) when I asked them about real-life applications of the ideas we learned.

    - And so on.

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    At the bottom-line, I mostly deal with being in a disadvantageous position, instead of quitting when the circumstances become unyielding. If one method doesn't work for me, I just seek out another one. As long as I show the professor that my knowledge is up to the appropriate level, most don't mind how I get there.
    This is very true. i have similar issues, though some of them actually come from the fact that I am so lazy. But still, I find many of my subjects are poorly structured. If you have a good teacher, things can be easier. My English Teacher from last year was brilliant. I understood everything he said, and when I rarely disagreed with him, he was always happy to discuss at length with me in a very effective and productive manner. He was an ENTP

    My current English teacher is AWFUL. She knows little, she explains things badly, she sometimes uses terms that defy logic (contextual context for example, which she considered different to context). If you ask a question, she gapes at you like she can't understand how you don't get it, and then she doesn't even answer. She just talks in circles. So it really depends on whether your teachers are any good.

    But the system in general can be pretty bad. The scoring and grading system is often nonsense (I live in Western Australia) and they put a lot of focus on things that don't matter. For example, even in a subject for art, you get 50% for written work. And tests rarely cover all the topics you need to know, focusing on a few. So all in all, the education of the world is in dissaray. Sigh. And they reccomend you study for about 4 hours at least per day. That would just make me die.

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    High school gave me a laptop and wireless internet to entertain myself during class.

    Other than that it was booooooooooooooooring.

    The fact that getting national certification is such a joke is a mite bit upsetting too... but it was awfully fun trying to sabotage our teacher's video.

    "Alright, who can do this problem on the board?"

    "...The answer is 29.5, we did the problem yesterday."

    Keep in mind that this was my Prob-Stat teacher who never took Prob-Stat, failed Algebra in college twice, and is somehow teaching honors Prob-Stat... I believe she got nationally certified my senior year of high school. YAY! PUBLIC EDUCATION!
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