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    Quote Originally Posted by goodgrief View Post
    They're practically your staple villains, with a few ENTJ's and other types occasionally thrown into the pot. Probably, apart from their NT, because of the way they often rebel against society in a way that ENTJ's and INTP's don't. Anyway, which do you think is the best at being evil?

    Some INTJ villains include:

    Professor Moriarty
    Hannibal Lecter
    Light Yagami
    Mr Glass
    Darth Sidius (Maybe Vader also)
    Lex Luthor
    Voldemort

    Some ENTP villains include

    John Simms as The Master
    Tho joker (Though I have heard a pretty convincing argument he was INTJ)
    Count Olaf

    Uh... hit a mental blank but there are quite a few more. Anyway, which type do you think are more effective and/or more entertaining as villains?
    Anakin Skywalker is an INFP??.. Vader is just a shadow form
    Not disagreeing.. just wanted to point that out..
    And I love the mention of MR Glass

    I also agree with the above poster( ZPowers) that the Joker is an F

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    I don't see ENTPs as evil geniuses. By the time we're done perfecting our death ray, we've forgotten why we're angry. I do love Plankton from SpongeBob though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amphion View Post
    I don't see ENTPs as evil geniuses. By the time we're done perfecting our death ray, we've forgotten why we're angry.
    That's why ENTP evil geniuses don't get into intricate plots like evil INTJs. They prefer fucking with people's heads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    That's why ENTP evil geniuses don't get into intricate plots like evil INTJs. They prefer fucking with people's heads.
    and INTJs don't fuck with people's heads?

    I beg to differ.

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    ENTP Villany: Xanatos Speed Chess - Television Tropes & Idioms

    This is how Vetinari thinks, his soul exulted. Plans can break down. You cannot plan the future. Only presumptuous fools plan. The wise man steers.
    Terry Pratchett, Making Money

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    Quote Originally Posted by marmalade.sunrise View Post
    and INTJs don't fuck with people's heads?
    Well, they do, but with a purpose and in a convoluted manner. We do it on a strict shits-and-giggles basis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by human101 View Post
    or claim that no action is innately good or evil.
    Haha I just did this in my thread about Moral views (which isn't put together very well btw) and I am INTP.
    I would also like to say that you are right we would not make very good villains but maybe would be better as lieutenants or generals for the master villain who is INTJ only because they plan better (by definition) and take caution with small details, which INTP's will stop the planning process as soon as they think they can handle it without anymore planning (just a general view I have made of myself and may not be the same for all INTP's)
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    If you had gone through with that, you would have been the pettiest "villain" I've ever heard about.

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    I think ENTP because they're the best type at causing chaos!! :evil:
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZPowers View Post
    I still think there's a strong argument to be made that Joker's a feeler, not a thinker. He's manipulative, so emotionally manipulative he can even drive people mad with ease and sometimes still be totally charming to them (he can appear completely empathetic if he needs to). He takes a lot more pleasure in enjoying people's pain and tribulations than necessarily searching for a clear goal or. Between the "some men aren't looking for anything logical" (Joker's ten times more passionate than rational) speech and the "I use a knife because I savor all the little emotions . . . I knew your friends better than you did" bit, he always strikes me as having more fun playing in the realm of people's reactions and feelings and than he does with concrete and logical ideas and motives.

    In fact, he doesn't care at all about money or power. He wants social change. He wants to make other people understand they are living in what he considers a lie. Watch the end of the Dark Knight, when he seems genuinely saddened the two boats didn't blow each other up, basically rejecting or criticizing him and all he stands for. He seems to take it sort of hard. And his relationship with Batman is, to him, very, very real. "You complete me" seems heartfelt. He seems upset in a similar way in "The Killing Joke" when asking Batman why he doesn't understand why it's funny, why he isn't laughing. On top of that, when Batman's off the scene, Joker takes it so hard he just stops being the Joker. See The Dark Knight Returns, when he loses his smile and goes next to comatose because Batman isn't out there to be his equal.
    I think some of these arguments could be used as arguments that the Joker is a T. Given the Joker's goals, he recognizes that being unpredictable and not allowing anyone to be able to logically deduce what his next move is going to be will help him achieve his goals better. I say ENTP. An ENTP can use Fe in a very twisted way.
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