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[INTJ] An impressive INTJ

onemoretime

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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/27/weekinreview/27johnson.html

Grigory Perelman, the man who solved the Poincare Conjecture, deeply impresses me. His rejection of the Fields Medal, the most prestigious honor in mathematics, suggests the height of what an INTJ's well-developed Fi looks like. It wasn't about him, the discoverer; rather, the important part was the discovery itself. He took full satisfaction in simply knowing that it was right.
 

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Do you think that your feelings about this man and his rejection of this award may someday lead you to reject a prestigious award in a similar fashion (should you ever do something of great note)?
 

onemoretime

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John Lott's talks and seminar notes

Here are some commentaries on the proof. Really interesting stuff. What strikes me at first is the realization that our brains do some incredibly complex mathematics almost constantly, without any conscious understanding of how it works. The second thing is I wonder how this cognitive awareness translates across generations: does the brain learn these deep, complex forms of math simply through stimulus and response, or is there actual mathematic knowledge locked within the genetic code?
 

onemoretime

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Do you think that your feelings about this man and his rejection of this award may someday lead you to reject a prestigious award in a similar fashion (should you ever do something of great note)?

No.
 

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Seems like INTJ thread season again.
 

tcda

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A lot of INTJ's are impressive; namely the ones involved in projects for the betterment of humanity.
 
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A lot of INTJ's are impressive; namely the ones involved in projects for the betterment of humanity.

hitler11718058.jpg
 

Edgar

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^^^ Typing fail
 

Metamorphosis

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While I can appreciate the sentiment, competition does do it's part in driving discovery.

Plus, had he not turned it down, I likely never would have known who he is.
 

tcda

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^^^ Because you share a liberal/libertarian prejudice against "collectivism" (or whatever they call that particular bogeyman these days)...?


Just a guess, hopefully I am wrong.
 

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If you'd like to emphasize that "projects for the betterment of humanity" are highly subjective, let me assure you that Hitler never strived to achieve the "betterment of humanity".
 

Fecal McAngry

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John Lott's talks and seminar notes

Here are some commentaries on the proof. Really interesting stuff. What strikes me at first is the realization that our brains do some incredibly complex mathematics almost constantly, without any conscious understanding of how it works. The second thing is I wonder how this cognitive awareness translates across generations: does the brain learn these deep, complex forms of math simply through stimulus and response, or is there actual mathematic knowledge locked within the genetic code?

John Lott? More Guns Less Crime John Lott?

94.33% sure he's he's an NTP...

John Lott's Website
 

onemoretime

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If you'd like to emphasize that "projects for the betterment of humanity" are highly subjective, let me assure you that Hitler never strived to achieve the "betterment of humanity".

Are you saying that he didn't think he was striving toward this end, or are you saying that he was simply rationalizing a personal revenge fantasy?
 

tcda

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ok I think the original Hitler pic was a reference to the fact I said "betterment" of humanity instead of "benefit". If so, actually, I guess it was quite funny. ;)

Though an actual professional eugenicist would have been better. :tongue:
 

tcda

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Are you saying that he didn't think he was striving toward this end, or are you saying that he was simply rationalizing a personal revenge fantasy?

Btw I don't think anyone could really claim that National Socialism claimed to be for the benefit of "all humanity" as it clearly stated that some parts of humanity should enslave others...
 
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