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    What would cause depression in the following types? What would that depression look like?
    INTJ/ENTJ/ENTP

    Which type would be most likely immobilized by a lack of options?

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    Open your eyes, it's the second best friend I have in life

    If I knew its causes, I wouldnt be here (on earth I mean)
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    I've never been depressed. I've been looked up to as the "rock" before, which is interesting because I can't empathise, having never been depressed or particularly in tune with my feelings at all. I wonder if it's because others are envying that detachment, if only briefly?

    I always come up with options. Stagnancy itself is much more miserable for me than the actual traumatising event, so I'll do whatever I can for the sake of progress (even if it's not technically progress sometimes, and more along the lines of moving parallel if I can't actually move forward for whatever reason - it gives perspective).

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    Quote Originally Posted by d4mselfly View Post
    I've never been depressed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    Open your eyes, it's the second best friend I have in life

    If I knew its causes, I wouldnt be here (on earth I mean)
    Hmmm. . . you're saying your depression is your best friend? Can I understand that you as and ENTP embrace your depression? How often does it occur/how long does it last? Does it tend to pop up at specific times in your life? How do others deal with it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windigo View Post
    What would cause depression in the following types? What would that depression look like?
    INTJ/ENTJ/ENTP
    I suffer from it along with high levels of anxiety. What CAUSES it? Well any stupid problem TRIGGERS it. Cause? I'd have to say in my case it's a hereditary thing.

    What does it look like? I isolate myself, want to be alone for LONG periods of time, have little patience with those that are close and want to "talk about it", dont eat, feel like a failure, beat myself up, and most of the usual other symptoms of depression. When I'm highly depressed/anxious I also have compulsive behaviors. Just repetitive obsessive habits.

    I'm actually depressed at the very moment.

    I think INTJ's may be prone to higher levels of anxiety. They have this perfectionist complex, where anything that isn't perfect is just WRONG, and anxious behavior ensues until it's perfect.

    Honestly, the perfectionist aspect of me has been dissipating recently. Not sure why or if I've just stopped caring as much. Perhaps I've been expecting less of others realizing I will be disappointed most of the time because people will always fall short of my expectations. (This could be where most people feel we come across as arrogant.)

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    Which type would be most likely immobilized by a lack of options?
    Not sure I understand. What kind of options are you referring to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by d4mselfly View Post
    I've never been depressed. I've been looked up to as the "rock" before, which is interesting because I can't empathise, having never been depressed or particularly in tune with my feelings at all. I wonder if it's because others are envying that detachment, if only briefly?

    I always come up with options. Stagnancy itself is much more miserable for me than the actual traumatising event, so I'll do whatever I can for the sake of progress (even if it's not technically progress sometimes, and more along the lines of moving parallel if I can't actually move forward for whatever reason - it gives perspective).
    Yes, I understand. Ive been through many traumatic events recently and I was the rock in each situation. I didn't cry or show my emotions as long as there was something to do. Now I am a place where all my support systems are GONE and I have no direction. So I am stagnating because I don't know which way to go.

    I was this way once before right after highschool when I failed to get into the college I wanted and my life plans were derailed. It took a year to just do something to move forward.

    So I believe it IS stagnation that is depressing me at the moment not the simultaneous loss of family, church and job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windigo View Post
    What would cause depression in the following types? What would that depression look like?
    INTJ/ENTJ/ENTP

    Which type would be most likely immobilized by a lack of options?
    There's a simple cure for any form of Depression. But modern life makes such a natural attainment almost impossible, if not improbable.

    1. Completely eliminate sugar and salt from one's diet.
    2. Completely eliminate grains, that's right no bread folks.
    3. Get adequate sleep each night.
    4. Get at least thirty minutes of walking or some other form of movement activity in each and every day.
    5. Eat 50/50 Fruit/Vegitables to Protein ratio if you're physically active.
    Eat 80/20 ratio if you're not very active.
    No processed foods or starches either.
    6. Point of stillness meditation. How? If the source of one's angst has an emotion, breath it in and feel it fully. Then breath out relief
    and a sense of well-being for yourself and all the others who suffer. Another method would be to focus on the out breath and simply
    observe one's thinking. When the mind throws up the negative chatter just observe it and mentally call it "thinking" Eventually, using
    those two methods with a daily time set aside...you can not only change your thought process but your life. We are not what our mind
    chatters. It's a way to discipline one's emotions and thoughts vs. being at their mercy.


    Following those five simple steps, one can cure ADHD, Depression, certain forms of diabetes, prevent heart disease and eliminate obesity.

    But most people would rather take a pill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thescientist View Post
    I suffer from it along with high levels of anxiety. What CAUSES it? Well any stupid problem TRIGGERS it. Cause? I'd have to say in my case it's a hereditary thing.

    What does it look like? I isolate myself, want to be alone for LONG periods of time, have little patience with those that are close and want to "talk about it", dont eat, feel like a failure, beat myself up, and most of the usual other symptoms of depression. When I'm highly depressed/anxious I also have compulsive behaviors. Just repetitive obsessive habits.

    I'm actually depressed at the very moment.

    I think INTJ's may be prone to higher levels of anxiety. They have this perfectionist complex, where anything that isn't perfect is just WRONG, and anxious behavior ensues until it's perfect.

    Honestly, the perfectionist aspect of me has been dissipating recently. Not sure why or if I've just stopped caring as much. Perhaps I've been expecting less of others realizing I will be disappointed most of the time because people will always fall short of my expectations. (This could be where most people feel we come across as arrogant.)


    Not sure I understand. What kind of options are you referring to?
    Yes, I get the perfectionist thing. Ive given up because Im tired of being called a control freak.

    Options. I don't have any job openings in my particular field at the moment. And since I define my self through my work . . . this makes me feel even more like isolating myself . . . only I EAT instead of the opposite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windigo View Post
    Hmmm. . . you're saying your depression is your best friend? Can I understand that you as and ENTP embrace your depression? How often does it occur/how long does it last? Does it tend to pop up at specific times in your life? How do others deal with it?
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