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    I dunno. I've seen it, but I don't understand it in either gender. Sometimes I think people want to be treated good but don't believe they deserve to be treated good, so they lose respect for people that treat them good.

    My default position is that everyone should be treated good on principle (unless they are harmful to society, etc) and I don't believe I'm an exception, so I'm with someone that treats me very well and I try to return the treatment in kind.

    Are you meeting women in an environment that is target rich for unhealthy people?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady X View Post
    he thinks women are attracted to the very thing that later repels them...he thinks we're contradictory confusing creatures...but...he's just seeing it wrong.
    women has double standards. We all know that.
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    That's probably because you're not good looking-fit/don't have a good humor. I mean, I understand it sounds harsh, but usually these two qualities (with an OR logical qualifier as a necessary condition, AND logical qualifier as sufficient condition) are more than enough to warrant at least a decent success among the ladies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    That's probably because you're not good looking-fit/don't have a good humor. I mean, I understand it sounds harsh, but usually these two qualities (with an OR logical qualifier as a necessary condition, AND logical qualifier as sufficient condition) are more than enough to warrant at least a decent success among the ladies.
    I'm good looking enough in a nerdy kind of way. You wouldn't realize the beautiful women that I have broken up with or blown it with due to misunderstanding. If I didn't get to that stage I wouldn't be making this thread would I?

    The other points - I'll answer later...in a rush right now.
    "Of course we spent our money in the good times. That's what you're supposed to do in good times! You can't save money in the good times. Then they wouldn't be good times, they'd be 'preparation for the bad times' times."

    "Every country in the world owes money. Everyone. So heere's what I dont get: who do they all owe it to, and why don't we just kill the bastard and relax?"

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    If you ate all the woman, you have ever been together with, are you then a person who cant stay in a relationship or a playboy, cause technically your relationship advanced to the most intimate level possible, if you get what I mean
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    If you ate
    We say that in Spanish - comer - but never heard it English. I take it they say it German as well?

    all the woman, you have ever been together with, are you then a person who cant stay in a relationship or a playboy, cause technically your relationship advanced to the most intimate level possible, if you get what I mean
    I'm definitely no playboy, I haven't been with that any women, just, they were suprisingly beautiful the ones I was with.

    Still in a rush - coming and going!
    "Of course we spent our money in the good times. That's what you're supposed to do in good times! You can't save money in the good times. Then they wouldn't be good times, they'd be 'preparation for the bad times' times."

    "Every country in the world owes money. Everyone. So heere's what I dont get: who do they all owe it to, and why don't we just kill the bastard and relax?"

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    No I actually meant "to eat", I pride myself in being a gourmet.

    But ignore myself I am just fooling around
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    Quote Originally Posted by tcda View Post
    It's just a fact I'm afraid. I'm not a misogynist, rationally I believe in feminism. But with real life women, I just, don't get 'em.

    I mean don't get me wrong, I know how to "pull" (as we say in Landan Town) etc. - I just find it pathetic the way that by acting in a way that I find annoying/transparent, I can "pull", whereas by acting in a way I find genuinely admirable, I wouldn't. So it's not that I don't know the rules, I just don't get them.

    So a few questions:

    1.) Why is it that women will pretend to want a nice guy etc., but really are fascinated by you if you are an asshole, and will harrass you to show a "human" side, but then, soon get bored once you have shown it (or at least, if you don't turn it off very quickly).

    2.) Leading on from that, why be annoyed by arrogance when this is what attracted you in the first place, and when there were plenty of non-arrogant guys who like you, who you could go for, but don't.

    3.) Why demand the hypocrisy that someone be "ambitious" or an "alpha male" in more general terms, but that they not be an asshole, when clearly, the two can't be seprated (by definition, climbing above other people, means taking advantage of situations for your benefit at their expense, i.e., being an asshole)? So why do we have to play some game of denying assholery while at the very same time taking a shit on everyone else?

    Actually those 3 questions are probably all the same, but whatever.
    You're chasing after the wrong girls. You're interested in the "hot & knows it & isn't going to settle for attention from only one guy" type, and frankly if the guy's only looking at this type [in most cases because he has limited ideas about "what's hot and what's not"] then it's his own fault he keeps falling into deep dating mudholes.

    Try looking for girls who are actually interested in you as a person, because I guarantee the ones you're trying to pursue now are only looking at you as a conquest [probably in the same way you're looking at them].




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    Balance, balance, balance
    I agree, but...

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    That was actually asshole. Allen does this all the time. He takes a typical jerk out of his usual social context and places him in one where his boorish behavior is encouraged, and even glorified, by men and women alike, & those who object are old brutish bitter lesbo hags :rolli:. He tends to idealize that sort of thing, and it grates on my nerves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcda View Post
    So a few questions:
    1.) That's not necessarily a woman thing.

    2.) Some people aren't self-aware enough to realize they are doing this and experienced enough to realize that every coin has two sides... that the strength AND weakness of an ambitious/assertive guy is that he is an ambitious/assertive guy, and that it's like of hard for a doer to be a responder at the same time and vice versa.

    3.) I think it's a fallacy to think that "assertive/alpha" has to be equivalent to "asshole." Alpha's by nature aren't geared to be sensitive... but men who are mature have learned to use their power for others and not for themselves. It happens.

    Maybe it's just the stage/age bracket you are operating in.
    If so, I think your experience will improve over time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neptunesnet View Post
    That was actually asshole. Allen does this all the time. He takes a typical jerk out of his usual social context and places him in one where his boorish behavior is encouraged, and even glorified, by men and women alike, & those who object are old brutish bitter lesbo hags :rolli:. He tends to idealize that sort of thing, and it grates on my nerves.
    Yeah, I agree. The only non-asshole part is that he's calmer than average.
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