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    I have to make this comment, considering something Super said about people not knowing them as well as they think they do.

    Ok, perhaps in 98% of an NTs daily interactions, this would hold true. I know there's all sorts of things running through my INTJ best friend's head, but honestly, I've met NFs with much crazier private thought lives who have shocked the heck out of me with some of their revelations. I'd say MOST people with a profound sense of the world will be "unknowable" to many degrees.

    Having said this, an ENTP I knew, have known well for years, used to get so ticked with me when I could predict him or understand instinctively what he needed. He'd go storming away with "You don't know me! Nobody does!" and I'd just go back to whatever I was doing before without comment. I knew he'd return at some point, and when he did, it would be quietly and sheepishly, still hanging on to a little of the vexation, but I think it had more to do with the frightening idea that someone *could* get him without effort. It was perhaps his most private nightmare that I could simply walk into his sacred internal places without being harmed or delayed by his security systems. Not that I would intrude on him. I'm simply immune to his barbs, like a clown fish in an anemone. He was practically in a sweating panic about it.

    The enshrined hypothesis of being The Unknowable, I've encountered this with many NTs, and have simply sidestepped it or let it ride, figuring whatever I've gleaned from their behavior, body language and other data will either steer me in the right direction or they'll actually break down and TELL me something they want me to know. Otherwise, I just wait and accumulate. They hate to believe they're telegraphing ANYTHING to the outside world, an illusion of supreme control. Sure, they make fantastic poker players. But they're not air-tight, no matter how much they'd like to believe it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueSprout View Post
    I dislike how they sound so yummy and yet none of them will let me have a taste.
    Offer to shake their bottle up. They like that.
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    Since I only know two other NTs outside this forum, I'd say; too much thinking, not enough feeling.

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    They (we) think they're all that and a bag of chips.
    They think they're always right. And I mean always. And that's just ludicrous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SUPER View Post
    What do you dislike about other NTs? Is there any personality trait in yourself that you dislike? Anything you wish were slightly different, or you would change a bit here and there?



    Dislike in others: Some are flat out boring. ENTPs may bullshit alot, INTPs ramble on too much, ENTJs are predictable, INTJs Ive only known one and he was so weird nobody wanted to talk to him.


    Dislike in self: misunderstood and many people (even ones close to me) dont know me nearly as well as they think they do.


    This made me smile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domino View Post
    Offer to shake their bottle up. They like that.
    But then it would ruin the very orderly layers in the suspension. Only the ENTPs would likely find that sort of chaos appealing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocial one View Post
    This made me smile.
    Is it something to be proud of?

    people thought he was retarded. We worked at a landscaping company in the summer. People suspected he would mow Swastikas in the grass and then try to cover it up by mowing the lawns in random zig-zagged-circled-clusterfucks. It's like "dude, you just mow the lawn up and down. That's all there is to it". I understand non-conformity, but this INTJ kid had shit for brains. There was one time when the other kids all started throwing garbage at him while we were on a bus. I actually felt a bit bad for him, but it looked too fun to not join in.

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    What I dislike about NTs? ENTPs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueSprout View Post
    But then it would ruin the very orderly layers in the suspension. Only the ENTPs would likely find that sort of chaos appealing.
    Probably explains my dating life. I'm the keg of powder and they've got the matches (and the lack of self-control like curious cats).

    You make a good point though. The only time I get "rough" with an INTJ (who finds that sort of thing repugnant) is when he's completely out of control. I don't lay hands on him. I just lay it out in very blade-sharp terms that he's being a creep and it draws him up short. I can do this with him because we're such close friends and he knows he needs it from time to time, but usually we don't argue.

    NTJs don't seem to like what NTPs practically demand from me (a reason that NTJs are my partners in crime, and why they gravitate toward my ENFP sister like a fly to a flytrap). I don't have to roll an NTJ over, sit on his/her chest and tell them what a miserable loathsome vile pile of carbon-based puke-water he/she is to let him know that I appreciate and love her/him. Though I must say, I like to be cuddly and warm with the girls. They have a different vibe.

    My male NTPs loved that. Being dominated and verbally kicked around a little from time to time. Nothing too rough. All in good fun. No NTPs were harmed in the making of this post. I didn't realize when I was barking at my ENTP that he'd made me mad on purpose just to watch me light off. It was all foreplay to him. Freak.

    I remember when I met my ENTP he would turn all sorts of colors when I'd get the better of him. When he was in a grumpy mood, my INTP liked it when I'd stand over him and use my drill sergeant voice and call him all sorts of names until he blushed and laughed. If either of them was truly upset, I would never be mean to them. Hugs and pats and comforting words a-plenty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SUPER View Post
    Is it something to be proud of?

    people thought he was retarded. We worked at a landscaping company in the summer. People suspected he would mow Swastikas in the grass and then try to cover it up by mowing the lawns in random zig-zagged-circled-clusterfucks. It's like "dude, you just mow the lawn up and down. That's all there is to it". I understand non-conformity, but this INTJ kid had shit for brains. There was one time when the other kids all started throwing garbage at him while we were on a bus. I actually felt a bit bad for him, but it looked too fun to not join in.

    How can you be sure that he is an INTJ ? (just curious)

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