No problem little tiger! I must admit some of the observations came from frustrating and being frustrated by ENTPs. My best friend is an entp and we have spent hundreds of hours argueing about functional dynamics across the Ti-Fe/Fi-Te divide.
Originally Posted by redcheerio
Also-for every single suggestion I made for ENTPs, there is a symmetric suggestion that ENFPs should listen to and learn from when we communicate with TPs or FJs. This road goes both ways.
There are several layers at how one could look at this question. My apologies, LOL, my "exact" gene is somewhat defective as Ti is my trickster...
Originally Posted by Istbkleta
Yes, I agree with you, every person wants something. An ENFP may want novelty (Ne) or they may want inner emotional/value calmness (Fi). Thus their external actions will be such to satisfy those aims. TPs are often highly competitive and want to either win (Ti?) or be recognized (Fe?) by their peers? Thus they will act to achieve those goals. These are examples stated in cognitive terms, but the enneatypes also are neat in how they define primary motivators, so just treat these as limited examples...there are many ways to describe human behavior.
Now, the second half of your question-will other people ALWAYS try and take you out to satisfy thier own desires/goals? This depends on how we define "take you out". As an example consider the avarage NFP. An NFP will tend (mostly ) to avoid seeking to delibrately harm others. This is because it triggers a nasty internal backlash of emotional pain and guilt inside of us, as we see you hurt. We are biologically designed to not want to hurt others as it hurts us.
So you likely wont get "taken out" the way another TP of FJ would take you out via deliberate plotting and planning or social manipulation. In fact I often find myself sacrificing my own career chances to help my entps get ahead of me at work *faceplant* because it makes me happy to see them happy....
As an aside-I see this train of thought and assumption of worst case scenerio and plotting/planning in NTPs and in NFJs. Once an INFJ explained it to me. Basically my actions seem to follow no logical Ti course (since I dont use Ti as an internal compass). Thus my actions and ideas seem utter inexplicable-(since the Ti user doesnt see my Fi compass.) Since my actions defy explanation, their best conclusion is that I am crazy (NTPs) or I am plotting evil deeds (NFJs). I use myself as an example of course, to exemplify a larger trend.
Now-would an NFP "take you out" inadvertantly....possibly through sheer obliviousness and plowing through a nice Ti/Fe plan laid out with out silly Te hammer. They might also harshly judge you, thus justify their own negative actions towards you based upon those inapplicable Fi judgements and exclude you from social connectivity...a form of taking you out, since your mode of action will likely be Fe based....I suspcet there are other ways as well...
Thanks for digging a bit on that point as these are interesting avenues to explore!