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    Dude, I really don't feel like repeating what I say, but I am going to do it at least for this time:

    Caesar was known for his extreme risking and pushing things to the limit, even if it means destroying himself. There are many examples that his career would be in ruin, but luck saved him everytime.

    (1) He pissed off Sulla when he was a child for disobeying the dictator's orders to marry his daughter, and he almost got killed for it. He was saved by the intervention of his relatives.

    (2)He accumulated massive amount of debt to buy popularity and political office. Even so, he continue to borrow money and lavishly spend them on public games to win people's favor. At one point, his debtors threaten to kill him and went to house at night, and he had to flee for his life.

    (3) he bet everything on his campaign in Gaul. It was as massive gamble and the only hope of paying the massive debt he accumulated. If the campaign in Gaul turn out to be a disaster, his career would be in utter ruin and he would sink even deeper into debt.

    (4)He decided to cross the rubicon. it was a all or nothing move. If he loses to Pompey he would be killed and everything he has fought and gain for in his life would amount to nothing. It is like investing 100% of your money into a stock that you are not certain will rise or plummet to the ground. It was like risking everything in one bet.

    (5)He always spared his defeated enemies rather than killed them.If it was Te, he would have executed all his enemies and strike fear into anyone who pissed him off like Sulla. But instead he choose to be generous and turn enemies into allies. This is an example of Fe.

    TJs are known to make every decision within a calculated framework or a plan, not take all or nothing risks that could ruin everything. And they have contingency plans for everything. caesar was a huge risktaker. His life is about all about throwing dices and maximizing his chance of winning, as he said in the quote "the die is cast". he counted on luck and randomness to win as much as planning and strategic thinking.
    The fear of poverty turns people into slaves of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cloud View Post
    Caesar was known for his extreme risking and pushing things to the limit, even if it means destroying himself. There are many examples that his career would be in ruin, but luck saved him everytime.
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    (2)He accumulated massive amount of debt to buy popularity and political office. Even so, he continue to borrow money and lavishly spend them on public games to win people's favor. At one point, his debtors threaten to kill him and went to house at night, and he had to flee for his life.
    ...
    (4)He decided to cross the rubicon. it was a all or nothing move. If he loses to Pompey he would be killed and everything he has fought and gain for in his life would amount to nothing. It is like investing 100% of your money into a stock that you are not certain will rise or plummet to the ground. It was like risking everything in one bet.

    (5)He always spared his defeated enemies rather than killed them.If it was Te, he would have executed all his enemies and strike fear into anyone who pissed him off like Sulla. But instead he choose to be generous and turn enemies into allies. This is an example of Fe.

    TJs are known to make every decision within a calculated framework or a plan, not take all or nothing risks that could ruin everything. And they have contingency plans for everything. caesar was a huge risktaker. His life is about all about throwing dices and maximizing his chance of winning, as he said in the quote "the die is cast". he counted on luck and randomness to win as much as planning and strategic thinking.
    Caesar was from a rather famous but poor family. According to Goldsworthy's book on Caesar it was necessary, or at least common, in Rome to spend a lot of money on public games in order to get in people's favor and therefore get elected to high offices. Because he wasn't from a wealthy family, he had to borrow money. Also, You could not generally get elected twice to certain high offices (before Caesar's time), so you had to take your chances quickly during your term of a few years if you wanted to get ahead. For Caesar, this meant using a lot of borrowed money and waging war actively to get recognition.

    I also got the impression from the books I read, that he was quite aware that there was not a lot of men defending Rome at the time of crossing Rubicon.

    Taking those things into account, I don't know how much differently ENTJ would have behaved. Surely there are several things that point to ENTP.

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    I would like to claim douglas adams as an enfp. We get osama bin ladin too.

    ENFPs specialize in making connections that are utterly incorrect, broken, irrational and thus hysterically funny. We do it on purpose and make intps giggle.

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    I think Bill Gates might be an ENTP

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    Quote Originally Posted by ObliviousExistence View Post
    I think Bill Gates might be an ENTP
    nah, INTP, he was an e5 for one, The books have even typed him so. And he's a computer nerd lol.
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    jon stewart i know some people think he is an F

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oedipa_Maas View Post
    And Tesla is INTJ.
    ...the fuck?


    I hate to break it to you but people of different types can hate each other.

    Tesla looked up to edison for a good portion of his life, then Edison royaly screwed him over and they became rivals.

    But tesla, THE mad sceintist, who melted a mans hand, nearly leveled a city block, and thought martians were trying to send him messages is INTJ?

    Please elaborate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King-Of-Despair View Post
    nah, INTP, he was an e5 for one, The books have even typed him so. And he's a computer nerd lol.
    No way in hell Gates is an NTP. He's NTJ to the core.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sytpg View Post
    No way in hell Gates is an NTP. He's NTJ to the core.

    He has the personality of a door knob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    He has the personality of a door knob.
    just like John D. Rockefeller, Bill Billichick, Dick Cheney, Theo Epstein - hugely successful INTJs, but not guys you really want to have a beer with

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