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    Quote Originally Posted by Metamorphosis View Post
    I think that frequently, probably more often than other types, we have no idea what we really want. Even so, the larger problem is that we think we do.
    I agree, might also want to check with shadow ESFP. But why do you think we'd be more oblivious than other types?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uytuun View Post
    I agree, might also want to check with shadow ESFP. But why do you think we'd be more oblivious than other types?
    I think we tend to drift towards superficial goals (ex. money, power, fame, etc.) as opposed to happiness, love, etc. without understanding the underlying reasons. I think we're always so "sure" of ourselves that it doesn't generally occur to us to question our foundation on matters like this. We fail at interpreting our F. We can't understand things that can't be broken down logically and outlined in steps. We can't understand things that we can't control.

    INTJs generally are always about improvement which is undoubtedly representative of some kind of insecurity or missing piece. If we really knew which direction to go, we wouldn't have this problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metamorphosis View Post
    I think we tend to drift towards superficial goals (ex. money, power, fame, etc.) as opposed to happiness, love, etc. without understanding the underlying reasons. I think we're always so "sure" of ourselves that it doesn't generally occur to us to question our foundation on matters like this. We fail at interpreting our F. We can't understand things that can't be broken down logically and outlined in steps. We can't understand things that we can't control.

    INTJs generally are always about improvement which is undoubtedly representative of some kind of insecurity or missing piece. If we really knew which direction to go, we wouldn't have this problem.
    Yes, INTJs really need to introspect and face the chaos within. And it really *is* chaos. Holding on to the thin veneer of certainty...will leave you with the lingering feeling that thousands of little demon hands are trying to push through the plastic wrapped around your inner self.

    And then you have to make sure you don't get absolutely lost in the inner labyrinth and become a giant demon hand.

    No surprise my favourite book is Heart of Darkness, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metamorphosis View Post
    INTJs generally are always about improvement which is undoubtedly representative of some kind of insecurity or missing piece. If we really knew which direction to go, we wouldn't have this problem.
    Maybe, but I think we just have a strong distaste for becoming stagnant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kra View Post
    Maybe, but I think we just have a strong distaste for becoming stagnant.
    Yes, but is that an effect or a cause? Seems like the former to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metamorphosis View Post
    INTJs generally are always about improvement which is undoubtedly representative of some kind of insecurity or missing piece.
    The absence of a past to be satisfied with? Even if there is money in the bank, official achievement and fame. Even if there is love. We're missing direct ways to value things that have gone before. There's passing satisfaction in them, but it doesn't last?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalach View Post
    The absence of a past to be satisfied with? Even if there is money in the bank, official achievement and fame. Even if there is love. We're missing direct ways to value things that have gone before. There's passing satisfaction in them, but it doesn't last?
    This is by far the biggest reason why I am almost never content. I am unable to appreciate past achievements.

    But then again - that is one of my biggest motivators too.
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