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    Dreaming the life onemoretime's Avatar
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    Default Calling out ENxJs (to all types)

    What's your reaction when they get into "one of those situations" (sorry guys), and they're trying to take charge when it's not asked for? Mine is usually to make it very clear that they have no authority at the time, and suggest alternative routes to achieving mutually beneficial goals.

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    Just because it's not asked for doesn't mean it won't be helpful.

    It sounds like your reaction to someone trying to take charge is to take charge yourself.
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    Hard to say. Why do you think they did?
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    Quote Originally Posted by murkrow View Post
    Just because it's not asked for doesn't mean it won't be helpful.

    It sounds like your reaction to someone trying to take charge is to take charge yourself.
    Just because it's helpful, doesn't mean it's appropriate. I'd say it's more like trying to create a win-win situation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzcrossed View Post
    Hard to say. Why do you think they did?
    The person in question just has a meddlesome personality, and doesn't know when to stay out of things unless it's made blindingly clear.

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    What makes it inappropriate?

    Are they overstepping some sort of chain of command?
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    Uhhhh... lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post


    The person in question just has a meddlesome personality, and doesn't know when to stay out of things unless it's made blindingly clear.
    Then I guess just make it blindingly clear.

    Fight fire with fire maybe?

    TBH I've never really had this problem.



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    oh, oh oh,oooooooooooooooooh the J ness... control, eeeeekkk

    Love it when they do that.

    No I very firmly say no to what ever it is they are trying to get me to do.... I may stand my ground on them. It can be done through body language or verbally....sometimes it's tough to do.... but nessesary

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    :steam: Before this turns into another ENxJ abuse thread, let me just say that it varies on the person!

    I've got an ESFJ grandma that needs to obsessive-compulsively control everything! I don't do that. We both lead with Fe.

    So you may have set off some genuine NJ triggers, or you might just have an insecure OCD ENxJ person on your hands. Don't throw all of us into the bonfire, my P-is-for-Preceiving friend. Some of us are trained to let the ship go down with its captain if there is no distress call sent out. I am an admiral, but I've also got my own ship to worry about. I'm only going to jump ahead of you if you require my help, if it's an agreement between us that I am in or can take charge, or if my butt is on the line, and I value what'd I'd lose with you in command more than I value our relationship, or the social niceity of respecting you, even when it's not called for.
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    What's your reaction when they get into "one of those situations" (sorry guys), and they're trying to take charge when it's not asked for?
    In my case, this would be ENTJ on ENTJ action, which sounds pretty hot.

    Seriously though, if we're in a chaotic situation and someone, another ENTJ maybe, brings balance to the force by nudging things in the right direction, I'm not going to object-- less hassle for me, right? I hate hassles.

    Better question is what to do when a leader does something stupid, or if someone is taking charge in a casual situation that does not call for leadership. The first question depends on whether you like the person, whether you'll look bad if the person in question screws up, i.e. what your general goals are. In the second case, just make fun of the person in a friendly way for being an idiot.


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