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    Quote Originally Posted by visaisahero View Post
    Something about this kind of reasoning bothers me. Just because INTPs might be more prone to being logical does not necessarily mean that they ARE more logical. Preference cannot and should not be confused with aptitude! I know of an INTP whose Fe is better developed than an ENFJ's, for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenneth Almighty View Post
    I know, I know. That's all a type is: a set of preferences and sweeping generalizations :p
    That doesn't mean it doesn't have value, though!

    I personally think everybody would be better off- individually, and subsequently, collectively- if everyone made a concerted effort to confront and wrestle with their inferior functions. Self-aware ENxPs, warm and friendly IxTPs, logical and reasonable ExFJs...
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    Extraverted functions are objective, introverted functions are subjective. Any EXXX is much more objective then any IXXX.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston View Post
    Extraverted functions are objective, introverted functions are subjective. Any EXXX is much more objective then any IXXX.
    Correction: Extroverted judgment functions are objective. perceiving functions are neither, as they don't analyze information.
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    why is NTP more objective than STP?

    it would seem to me that Se is more objective than Ne because it's not filtered by "meaning", which is a very personal thing. the basis for the patterns we see is entirely in our heads, even if we see the same patterns and connections as one another. Se is more environmentally and chronologically determined, which removes it from the individual, making it, by definition, more objective.

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    I'd say you are absolutely correct on that assessment Skylight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksei View Post
    Correction: Extroverted judgment functions are objective. perceiving functions are neither, as they don't analyze information.
    And why would a function need to analyze information for it to be objective?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    why is NTP more objective than STP?

    it would seem to me that Se is more objective than Ne because it's not filtered by "meaning", which is a very personal thing. the basis for the patterns we see is entirely in our heads, even if we see the same patterns and connections as one another. Se is more environmentally and chronologically determined, which removes it from the individual, making it, by definition, more objective.
    Ne and Se perceive the same amount of objective information in different ways, making them, by definition, equal (in their amount of objectivity). There is so subjectivity in extraverted functions just as there is so objectivity in introverted functions.

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    I know that the INTPs generally have a very strong drive for reaching objectivity, and accuracy and understanding is paramount, though because we have introverted thinking, it's often our own conclusions rather than based solely off what we see. However, I'm not sure if this makes it more subjective, because generally our Ti makes us aspire for accuracy and we always try to make sure our deductions are backed up observable evidence. We analyse information with our Ti Ne and use that to determine whether or not the information is trustable or not.

    If there are holes in this, please point them out. I find the functions somewhat difficult to understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skylights View Post
    why is NTP more objective than STP?

    it would seem to me that Se is more objective than Ne because it's not filtered by "meaning", which is a very personal thing. the basis for the patterns we see is entirely in our heads, even if we see the same patterns and connections as one another. Se is more environmentally and chronologically determined, which removes it from the individual, making it, by definition, more objective.
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