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    Quote Originally Posted by Faine View Post
    More questions! Random questions!
    1. What's your favourite kind of weather and why?
    Not hot enough for me to sweat and not cold enough for me to get lazier than normal. About 75°F, with seaside-like humidity is perfect.
    2. Do you have any pet-peeves when dealing with other people?
    I get annoyed when people come too high energy on me (it is ok to be happy but don't have to act like you've won the lottery everyday!) and when they make questions and don't expect me to say the truth.
    3. Would you consider yourself a nervous sort of person when it comes to dangers that aren't likely to happen?
    When I enter in planes I'm fully aware that it might crash into another plane, lose its turbines, etc. but I don't get nervous when I know the risk is low.I was curious enough to learn the aproximate probabilities.
    4. What do you think of spirituality?
    Bullshit! It's similar to the Matrix, in the sense that most people subconsciously decided they are better off not facing reality. Ignorance is happiness.
    5. If given the chance to rule the world, would you take it?
    That could be fun, I like to think I would make the world a better place to live for those that aren't in my blacklist.
    But if the offer is irreversible, no way I'd take it.
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    A man creates. A parasite says, 'What will the neighbors think?'
    A man invents. A parasite says, 'Watch out, or you might tread on the toes of God... '


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    Quote Originally Posted by INTPness View Post
    I know we're strange, but yes, if he's enthusiastic - that's a good sign! Enthusiasm is good, right?
    Ahahaha! Rereading that, it does seem like a rather silly question. I suppose I was wondering if it was a good sign for romance or if he was just enthusiastic about getting to meet a friend. Obviously I expected you to read my mind. Also to read his. Your lack of psychic ability is most disappointing!

    Edit: Due to the personal nature this all took, I've decided to remove my following comments. Thank you to everyone who was offering help though, especially INTPness with whom I will now keep rambling away to via PM. I'll likely pop back to this thread again with less gushy/personal questions later!

    Quote Originally Posted by INTPness View Post
    I'd like to try it for a day. But, in reality, no. It's a struggle to get my underwear on the right way in the morning (stinky side in), so running the world could be problematic.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    That could be fun, I like to think I would make the world a better place to live for those that aren't in my blacklist.
    But if the offer is irreversible, no way I'd take it.


    A world run by INTPs would definitely be an interesting place.
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    Dear INTPs,

    How do you deal with situations in which you HAVE to be serious and you can't crack any jokes (constipated colleagues ahoy!) nor do any silly thing?

    I feel that the place I'm in currently is sucking the life out of me and I'm super-tired at the end of the day and usually end up doing very impulsive things to spice up my life. I'm not sure this is a good thing (the crazy impulsive things although I enjoy that a lot).

    So HOW?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thealchemist View Post
    Dear INTPs,

    How do you deal with situations in which you HAVE to be serious and you can't crack any jokes (constipated colleagues ahoy!) nor do any silly thing?

    I feel that the place I'm in currently is sucking the life out of me and I'm super-tired at the end of the day and usually end up doing very impulsive things to spice up my life. I'm not sure this is a good thing (the crazy impulsive things although I enjoy that a lot).

    So HOW?
    Ha ha, I'm currently in the same situation. It's very serious business, this work stuff, you know? No joking allowed. No, I think what I'm learning is that with the INTJ's I work with, I am seeing their Te side which seems very structured and serious, but from what they tell me (the INTJ's on this board), I should go ahead and unleash Ne a little bit more. Go ahead and crack jokes with them even though they seem super serious. Maybe I'll just get the reputation of being the funny guy.

    But, yeah, there are situations where you have to be serious and it can feel suffocating if it's like all day, every day. Sometimes I get off and I just want to go do something crazy and irrational to let off some steam. I feel like I've been caged. But, I just find opportunities to crack a joke wherever I can.

    I went to the dentist today and I had him and his assistant cracking up pretty good. He gave me a shot to numb me and said, "I'll be back in about 10 minutes to get started." I said something like, "OK, sounds good. I should still be here when you get back." Then the nurse said, "I like your shoes - those are neat looking." I said, "They're my new running shoes. Try not to get any blood on them." Just little off-handed comments like this throughout the day to people keeps things light and fresh for me. It breaks up the monotony and the uber-seriousness. And 50% of people are pretty responsive to it. If I would have just said to him, "OK, thanks, see you in 10 minutes." Then, that just gets boring and uneventful all day. I try to use Ne to play off people's comments. When they say something, I come back with something funny and hope that I can get a laugh or that they'll joke back. Sometimes you hit, sometimes you miss, but at least it keeps it fun.

    Also: seek out other Ne-users (NP's) in your workplace. They are there. You just have to locate them.
    NTJ's are the only types that have ever made me feel emo.
    ENP's are the only types that have ever made me feel like a sensor.


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    Quote Originally Posted by INTPness View Post
    Ha ha, I'm currently in the same situation. It's very serious business, this work stuff, you know? No joking allowed. No, I think what I'm learning is that with the INTJ's I work with, I am seeing their Te side which seems very structured and serious, but from what they tell me (the INTJ's on this board), I should go ahead and unleash Ne a little bit more. Go ahead and crack jokes with them even though they seem super serious. Maybe I'll just get the reputation of being the funny guy.

    But, yeah, there are situations where you have to be serious and it can feel suffocating if it's like all day, every day. Sometimes I get off and I just want to go do something crazy and irrational to let off some steam. I feel like I've been caged. But, I just find opportunities to crack a joke wherever I can.

    I went to the dentist today and I had him and his assistant cracking up pretty good. He gave me a shot to numb me and said, "I'll be back in about 10 minutes to get started." I said something like, "OK, sounds good. I should still be here when you get back." Then the nurse said, "I like your shoes - those are neat looking." I said, "They're my new running shoes. Try not to get any blood on them." Just little off-handed comments like this throughout the day to people keeps things light and fresh for me. It breaks up the monotony and the uber-seriousness. And 50% of people are pretty responsive to it. If I would have just said to him, "OK, thanks, see you in 10 minutes." Then, that just gets boring and uneventful all day. I try to use Ne to play off people's comments. When they say something, I come back with something funny and hope that I can get a laugh or that they'll joke back. Sometimes you hit, sometimes you miss, but at least it keeps it fun.

    Also: seek out other Ne-users (NP's) in your workplace. They are there. You just have to locate them.
    Hahaha I can see myself cracking those jokes too.

    I tried to subtly feed them some fibre (probing them first) but those people merely look at me blankly when I Ne on them. Eg: on Friday I had so many rapture jokes but nooooooooo, couldn't use any of them on them. I don't know. This makes me feel ... oppressed?

    I know some Ne-users in other labs (I'm still in school) but they are as busy as I am so I can only very occasionally meet them for lunch/dinner. So far I've been surviving on conversations via gchat but this is driving me mad.

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    How would an INTP go about designing an ideal city? What would be considered and how?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thealchemist View Post
    Hahaha I can see myself cracking those jokes too.

    I tried to subtly feed them some fibre (probing them first) but those people merely look at me blankly when I Ne on them. Eg: on Friday I had so many rapture jokes but nooooooooo, couldn't use any of them on them. I don't know. This makes me feel ... oppressed?

    I know some Ne-users in other labs (I'm still in school) but they are as busy as I am so I can only very occasionally meet them for lunch/dinner. So far I've been surviving on conversations via gchat but this is driving me mad.
    I hear ya. Keep coming back to TypoC. They accept many forms of payment here, one of which is Ne.
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    ENP's are the only types that have ever made me feel like a sensor.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Architectonic View Post
    How would an INTP go about designing an ideal city? What would be considered and how?
    Oh gosh. Good question. So many things to consider. I'm giving you the very "quick" version. If it were reality, I'd take years to map it out and consider/analyze everything.

    For me, I actually like when something is "presented to me" and then I can react according to what has been handed to me. So, if someone said, you have to build a city in northeast Arkansas. Then, I can go and research the topography, the weather, the wind, is it tornado country, earthquake country (how strong do we have to build the structures), what is everything we need to take into consideration, airports, location relative to other major transportation hubs, etc.

    But, since I don't have a "real" location to think about here - I guess I'm just going to consider...well, everything. I'm analyzing from all angles. Should we build "up" (highly concentrated with high-rise apartment buildings), or should we build "out" (sprawling suburbs, etc.) Do we even have a choice based on the location? I'm probably starting (at least on paper) with the essentials that every city needs - and that's where my sketch would begin. In the heart of the city, when pencil first hits paper, I'm putting a police station, a fire department, a hospital, a government building (courthouse, etc.), a library, etc. I'm going to have a "downtown" commercial area - where shops and businesses can move in and where people can walk and talk. I'm putting in benches, nice looking landscape, etc. My residential streets will shoot off from this downtown area and they will be a system that "makes sense". I live in a city now where there is, for example, 8th Street and 8th Avenue. So, you can be on the corner of 8th and 8th, or 6th and 6th. That's stupid and I'd like to talk to whoever thought of that. Streets should be very easy to navigate and understand for newcomers, visitors, and tourists. Like, I think in San Diego, the downtown area has lettered streets running one way (A, B, C, D Streets) and numbers running the other way. Simple, basic, and maybe uncreative, but it works. It's very easy to understand.

    I'm putting an airport on the outskirts of the city. I'm putting a K-12 school somewhere - I'd have to research why it's better to put it on one edge of the city (keep traffic out of the center of the city?), or if it's better to put it downtown, etc. I'm putting a nice park here and there. I want it to look nice and pleasant. But, more than that, I want it to work well for the people that go there. I want it to function properly. I don't want even one single thing where people can go, "What in the world were they thinking when they constructed this city?" Nothing will be thrown in at the last minute, or done haphazardly. It will all be well thought-out on paper first, consulting with experts in various fields and in city planning to make sure that everything has either (a) worked well in another city in the past, or (b) will work well this time, in this city.

    And I want something about the city to stand out. There has to be at least one thing that is unique or different about this city. Maybe a really good zoo in a small city (which is rare) - which would cause incoming traffic, but would also spur tourism and growth. A great water park/amusement park. A world renown rehabilitation center for women recovering from too many corns on their feet, or - something like that. Something that establishes the city as "the very best" in this particular area.

    There's so many other things to consider too: location will largely dictate industry and types of jobs, etc, etc, etc. It goes on and on and on. A Ti dream, really. So much to analyze and map out. It has to come together spacially as well, on paper.

    1. Function (easy to get around, things "make sense" to the newcomer and to the residents, people have everything they need, including peace, stability, safety, infrastructure, etc.)
    2. Aesthetics (looks fresh and appealing - a place you'd want to come back to or even stay)
    3. Everything else will fall into place once those things are established
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    Shouldn't the first thing to consider, be the people who are likely to live there in the first place and their lifestyles? You can't necessarily assume that current western lifestyles are 'ideal' either..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Architectonic View Post
    Shouldn't the first thing to consider, would be the people who are likely to live there in the first place and their lifestyles? You can't necessarily assume that current western lifestyles are 'ideal' either..
    Well, sure, the people should definitely be considered as a foundational piece of the puzzle. That's why I mentioned that I want it to work and function for the people. That proper function will vary depending on who those people are. If you're saying it might be a city for "only old people" - well, I don't know many cities like that. I suppose I assumed a population that was reflective of the overall population. And, I don't make any assumptions that cities here in the U.S. are "better" or "worse" than other parts of the world. That's not for me to decide or to pass judgment on. I can have an opinion on things like that, but that doesn't mean my opinion is correct. I guess that's why I said I like something to be "presented to me" (an actual location and the specifics involved - who will live there, what is the weather like, etc, etc, etc.). Once those parameters and variables are "given", only then can I begin to speculate on what would be best for that specific city, in that specific location, with that specific population. If I'm given all that information up front, then absolutely, I'm going to design the city with all of those things in mind.

    But, if those variables are not given and I'm only asked "how would you design an ideal city", then that's very broad, and I have to then begin with very basic things - every city needs a, b, c, etc. If you have something specific in mind (e.g., an Eastern city with a population of 8 million in a relatively small area, large elderly population, etc), then I can begin working off of that information.
    NTJ's are the only types that have ever made me feel emo.
    ENP's are the only types that have ever made me feel like a sensor.


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