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    Quote Originally Posted by Oeufa View Post
    Schoenberg might sound crap but all his music is very delicately and precisely put together . And go play your silence somewhere else!
    Anyway, my point was that systematisation doesn't preclude creativity. And systematisation doesn't have to mean serialism. Music is primarily about taste and Schoenberg was acting in poor taste.

    PS, the people at intjforum have claimed him as one of their own. Do you agree?

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    He's certainly very systematic and absolute when it comes to creation of music, so yeah I could peg him as an INTJ. Maybe ISTJ though. They really love their systems.

    Schoenberg was trying to do something very different though by acting outside already existing rules and boundaries of composition (though these have always been stretched ever since composition became a concept in its own right). His problem was that he created an entirely new method for cobbling notes together that was far more rigid and aesthetically unpleasing than what has gone before. Instead of freeing composition he bound it tightly. He did succeed in fathering a system that requires no inkling of creativity whatsoever though, and for that he may have earned the INTJ label
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTPness View Post
    As long as they are surrounded by a great team of scientists who are able to incorporate said contraptions.......................then, sure, they should be able to spout off at the mouth all they want. But, this is very much a "hypothetical" question you pose here - because most of the time the INTP will indeed be an expert on whatever they are talking about. Your hypotheticals are really starting to turn a very straightforward, realistic thread into something that is so far out, people are going to lose interest. For the sake of our readers, please try to keep future questions in the realm of reality please. You're really "reaching" with some of these questions.



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    Highly unlikely, but I hear that it does happen occasionally in some mutants.



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    Question #23: Do INTPs feel the need to "Get back on track?" when a conversation is being derailed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saturned View Post
    Question #23: Do INTPs feel the need to "Get back on track?" when a conversation is being derailed?
    Sometimes, when the conversation goes off on a boring tangent.
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    What makes INTPs so awesome?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pitseleh View Post
    What makes INTPs so awesome?
    Our combination of logical analysis paired with original insights is hard to surpass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuchIrony View Post
    Sometimes, when the conversation goes off on a boring tangent.
    pfft. my conversations are never boring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saturned View Post
    Question #23: Do INTPs feel the need to "Get back on track?" when a conversation is being derailed?
    *looks around to see if anyone is listening*

    whispers: Nah, it's OK. You can derail it this time if you want. It's cool.

    *bites nails nervously*
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuchIrony View Post
    Our combination of logical analysis paired with original insights is hard to surpass.
    You rock like no other. On random note, I got to party with several NPs the last couple of days. You guys are so much fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pitseleh View Post
    What makes INTPs so awesome?
    Awesomeness is in the eye of the beholder. You should start a campaign for us - letting everyone know about the awesomeness. Like a "social awareness" campaign on our behalf.
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