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    The world is certainly doomed as we know it - because there are no good people left in it. Instead, it's all the good people whom we thought of that bring doom to the world as we know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Game Master Near View Post
    Why the world is doomed?


    Want the short answer?


    Humans are stupid. Well most of us anyway....

    I am sorry but there is no simple answer. You will just have to go through the thread. Basicly people don't go into this is too deep exactly because the compexity of the issus is a turn off for the. BUt the basicly idea is that the changes in environment and geochemical parameters will do/cause this.

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    Thank you. I'm just today considering starting an environmental-themed website, so I'll take a closer look at this thread when I get time (I've bookmarked it).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocial one View Post
    I am sorry but there is no simple answer. You will just have to go through the thread. Basicly people don't go into this is too deep exactly because the compexity of the issus is a turn off for the. BUt the basicly idea is that the changes in environment and geochemical parameters will do/cause this.
    Yes they do. But humans being idiotic are simply speeding up the process that should be taking longer amount of times. And if it took longer amount of time. Then it would be easier for us to adapt and prepare. The human species are basically commit suicide,.
    "I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it."

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    what was your objective in making this thread? maybe i missed the point?

    what does it matter, if the world is doomed? i think it matters what we do today.
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    CO2 heats the globe, yes.

    Aerosols cool the globe.
    Ozone layer depletion also has a net cooling effect.

    Focusing on just one (politically profitable) gas is naively short-sighted, and below is partially why:

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    It is quite clear that global temperatures depend upon the pirate population:



    We need legislation to increase the number of pirates, ASAP.

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    Also, there's that annoying set of 3000 leaked documents showing that the average global temperatures over the past 100 years were doctored by the East Angling CRU and NASA GISS:

    The Tip of the Climategate Iceberg - WSJ.com

    And they accidentally deleted the source data. Oops! That wouldn't fly in any other scientific discipline.

    YouTube - ClimateGate Who's Who

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    Also there's that annoying admission by the director of the IPCC that they doctored glacier melting data:

    DAWN.COM | Sci-Tech | The glacier controversy

    IPCC's Himalayan Glacier 'Mistake' No Accident - US News and World Report

    But your pictures look so dramatic! Glaciers move over time. While they are receding in your pictures, turns out they are growing at an equivalent rate elsewhere (as glaciers are quite large).

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    Don't forget that Michael Mann admitted his hockey-stick graph based upon tree ring studies was inherently flawed.

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    Your tipping-point theory makes sense, and is something to be concerned about.

    Unfortunately, the datasets gathered by the East Anglia CRU and NASA GISS, which have formed the basis of every climate model since the mid-1990s, have been compromised beyond salvage (and partially eliminated), setting the field back nearly a decade.

    I agree, climatology is a field worth studying, and holds the potential to predict our future. The field needs to purge itself of corrupt scientist-politicians hunting their Moby Dick, such as Phil Jones and the leaders of the IPCC, and return to the honesty of politically-and-corporate-unaffiliated research. No more carbon-credit get-rich-quick schemes for the politically connected.

    How can Climatology advance, when entire nations do not trust the datasets provided by IPCC-affiliated scientists?

    YouTube - Hot 'Climategate' debate: Scientists clash LIVE on RT


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    Given how you are convinced that we are doomed, I suspect you are foaming at the mouth. All I want is to see more unadultered data supporting your theory, before we enact civilization-changing legislation to prevent your hypothetical doomsday.

    PS: I happen to be educated in the hard sciences, so don't waste your breath calling me an uneducated fundamentalist ape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagleseven View Post


    PS: I happen to be educated in the hard sciences, so don't waste your breath calling me an uneducated fundamentalist ape.


    OK, but wich field of hard science ?


    Are you from USA ? (I am truly curious since I am not)

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    Quote Originally Posted by yvonne View Post
    what was your objective in making this thread? maybe i missed the point?

    what does it matter, if the world is doomed? i think it matters what we do today.
    1. Well I am simply making the case that future my not be what people are expecting it to be.


    2, Then do what you think that it should be done. However it seems that changes will have a impact bofore you grow old. Global warming is just one of the variables in this puzzle. The others are deforestation , desertification, over population , political instability , crash of food chains. etc.


    I mean this thread is far from over. It is just that I started with global warming.

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