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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Miagi View Post
    Attack the ENTJ personally through using smart rethoric and logical fallacies he/she would be too slow to respond to. This will put him/her of balance. Then, using your vast ammunition of rationality and logic, go for the kill (throat area preferrably). The ENTJ would back off. Consequence? Victory.

    I speak from experience.

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    In fact, this strategy works against all types, except the INTP, or perhaps ENTP also.
    Hahaha Yeah I could see how Ti could be used to deconstruct the best of logical constructions. My Ti friend get by life gracefully by deconstructing the possibility benefits/cost of the laptop industry into mathematical algorithms.

    Anyways, I believe launching a volley of logical fallacies can be fruitless if most of them miss their mark. First of all, if Ti is purely subjective(influenced by inferior Fe) than it is not represented in the information systems(Ni) that supplies the ENTJ's construction opportunity resources(Te). It is possible that a few missiles will hit, but it's unlikely that logic that's more intent on finding the parts of a singular system(Ne or Se) will be able to dispatch the conglomerate of systems that comes with Ni. A person may see victory for proving the ENTJ wrong on a fact, but the worth is relative to the importance of the fact and the purpose.

    Ti vs Te can be a battle lost in translation especially if Ti is used with no foresight and only for hindsight. For Te, it is vice versa. Since Ti is more about originations and Te is more about destinations, there are different emphasis on how to see the light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Electric View Post
    A person may see victory for proving the ENTJ wrong on a fact, but the worth is relative to the importance of the fact and the purpose.
    Of course, but still, it's always a good idea to keep your options open (fallacies are one of them). And besides, a lot of NT's enter arguments just for the sake of arguing, and not always regarding the importance of the fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Miagi View Post
    And besides, a lot of NT's enter arguments just for the sake of arguing, and not always regarding the importance of the fact.
    THAT POINT IS ABSOLUTELY FALSE!

    And. . . what "facts" are we talking about here?
    "The only time I'm wrong is when I'm questioning myself."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haight View Post
    THAT POINT IS ABSOLUTELY FALSE!

    And. . . what "facts" are we talking about here?
    I don't know. Ask electric. He started it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haight View Post
    THAT POINT IS ABSOLUTELY FALSE!
    You'll be surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Miagi View Post
    You'll be surprised.
    I might be. But it doesn't matter. . . I just want to argue.
    "The only time I'm wrong is when I'm questioning myself."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haight View Post
    I might be. But it doesn't matter. . . I just want to argue.
    Here, have some...


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