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    Quote Originally Posted by skyler View Post
    "It's the devil in the flesh/It's the iron in my soul."

    I don't know if there is any way to make it happen and I'm not sure I'd wish it to. For me, something just sort of can't take anymore so "evil me" comes out to play and "evil me" can be very strong and devastating. People don't know what hit them and never saw it coming.
    +1 I like that quote.


    Also I read somewhere that our shadow function type ENTJ, just happens to be our ideal soul mate.

    Yeah...***me hugging my inner devil**...we are ( me and my shadow function) now soul mates/sole mates. Until death do us part
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    You guys are scaring me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skyler View Post
    I tend to withdraw at times when I get into the stress.

    Deadline stress for me is sometimes productive as long as it doesn't go on much longer than a week or two. I hate it, but it makes me focus a bit more and sort of get things done whether they're perfect and consistent or not.

    With the personal conflict stress, I often withdraw, but it depends. If it's an argument or ongoing issue that has just come to a head and just pushed me past the point of all tolerance and reason then I can have the super-volcano like explosion.

    This is the kind of event that only happens to me maybe once every 5 years, but I basically become ruthless and I rip the object of my anger to shreds and the result is usually shock and tears on their part. Seriously. I temporarily become very aggressive and very ruthless. For me this little explosion lasts about 30 minutes but it contains all the things that have been building up for months or years. It aint pretty, but in a certain way it works and things changed one way or another. Perhaps not a productive response but it gets me by under extreme circumstances.

    Perhaps this is what Spamtar is talking about. "It's the devil in the flesh/It's the iron in my soul."

    I don't know if there is any way to make it happen and I'm not sure I'd wish it to. For me, something just sort of can't take anymore so "evil me" comes out to play and "evil me" can be very strong and devastating. People don't know what hit them and never saw it coming.
    +1 to all of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jenocyde View Post
    You guys are scaring me.
    +1

    I haven't had an inferior Fe meltdown since 3rd grade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aderack View Post
    Okay. I really don't cope with stress well, and I know this is archetypically a thing that INTPs struggle with. Everyone has troubles, I know, irrespective of type. I am, however, looking at the unusually tangy INTP flavor of anxiety, that starts with inferior Fe weirdness where you pick up emotions and don't know what to do with them, then gets caught up a Ti-Si loop that eats up all the mental cycles so there's no buffer left to work with to make that lateral jump you need to tear out of that loop.

    There's nothing like a confrontation to make me shut off. Whenever there's a challenge, or an expectation put on me, I freeze. If I've got someone breathing down my neck, demanding an answer or a solution, I freeze harder. The only thing I can think is that I don't know what to do, I don't know what to say, and that maybe, if possible, I'd like to vanish.

    I've all my little theoretical tricks to help me cope, and they're fine when I'm on my own and have all the time in the world; when I'm in the moment, they all fall down. The problem is that my mind just stops working. I can't think of a damned thing. I can't remember any of my little tricks, and being up in the moment I don't have the time or space to work things out. So, it's just blank. I can barely even find words to put together. What little does come out tends to be frantic, flailing, sub-articulate requests for space so that I can pull myself together. I don't hear myself, and I have a hard enough time just speaking that choosing words carefully is beyond me. Yet that lack of ability to form a coherent sentence can often make things worse.

    I guess I've always had this problem; it's become more pronounced over the last ten years or so. And it's... becoming problematic.

    So. Yeah. Any INTPs out there hit on how to dim down the freak-out?
    Oh God, I know the feeling. Unfortunately, I'm in the same boat as you in terms of knowing how to deal with it. I have recently turned towards the pharmacological solution route.
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    Fe meltdown is good. It should be embraced not fought. Stick your arm in the cage, it won't bite...too hard...(al la Gordon Gecko's Greed is Good Speech )
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    You are an INTP, don't forget that . While we may have some issues in interpersonal relations and dealing with stress, we also have the unique skill to detach ourselves from the external world and take an objective look into things. Depending on how we manage ourselves, all of the aforementioned issues can become valued assets, and the skills can become serious hindrances.

    I've been through my fair share of anxieties (not serious issues thankfully) that were very confrontational. After a while I got used to these and I started to tune these things out. This eventually turned into the ability to selectively tune things out.

    Considering that most of the time I blow my anxieties out of proportion, this has helped me keep a lid on problems that if I had focused on would have driven me insane. This is far from perfect of course, and in and of itself can be problematic if done all the time too. I guess it's about channeling aspects...

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    Quote Originally Posted by spamtar View Post
    I still more than occasionally get anxious and stay in INTP character. Its rather those extreme scenarios...Girlfriend left ya, someone gets in your face to start a fight, emergency, and (edit) etc. and even then handling those "extreme" situations can be easier in INTP mode than a lot of the day to day drab.

    I noticed the transformation short term most of my life. I almost always tried to fight it and it made the anxiety worse. It was only at one point where the stress was so extreme were I was even to the point of wanting to off myself that the ENTJ "superego" took over long term (don't recall how long, maybe somewhere between a couple of weeks to several months) regardless it got shit back on base.

    So what I am saying it is useful in my life accepting this (for lack of a better word) gestalt. It is useful knowing it is there when I am stressed, and not fighting it when/if it comes out (regardless if it decides to take over or no). It is useful crafting it in my mind so I will be familiar with it, luckily for me the shadow function person has been pretty useful (although not as concerned with harmony as I) and is usual proficient (although its not perfect and can go overboard).

    So in other words, with me its about acceptance and crafting both your persona as well as your shaddow persona and be cofortable with the transformation, the anxiety prior to the transformation, and the shadow function persona himself/herself.
    I also recognize ENTJ moments when I'm these types of situations. I've said before, when my back is against the wall or I'm in a really tough spot or some type of emergency fight-or-flight situation, my Ti sometimes flips and becomes Te. In these situations I get a glimpse of what it must be like to be ENTJ - I've noticed that people respect me more when I'm like this, but I also get more of these looks: It's good and it's bad - people tend to respect the Te, but it's very easy to burn bridges and alienate people when you go off on a Te "heater".

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    I've never had a problem with anxiety, I've definitely never had a panic attack, I don't understand what that would feel like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milkyway2 View Post
    I've never had a problem with anxiety, I've definitely never had a panic attack, I don't understand what that would feel like.
    Ever waited and waited in a queue at the grocery store (especially when you have to be somewhere else) and then someone a few person in front of has some weird coupon or food stamp and the cashier walks away ostensibly to go find some person in authority and you wait and wait and look at the darting eyes of the other person in line. Both wondering, did the cashier forget she was working the til? Your eyes lock but then you both break eye contact and shift your eyes to the tabloids or gum rack or anything...nervously reading about what a wreck Britney Spears is making of her talents...Yeah!

    Well its nothing like that.
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