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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post
    Whoa, settle down there, buddy, I was just kidding
    Don't worry. I just wanted to get this clear. Sometimes I've got this feeling I've got to battle against the stereotype image of "ENTP = cool but useless". Actually, I guess lots of people on this forum either battle against the stereotypical image of their type, or just go with the flow and use their type as excuse for their behaviour. I just want to make clear I'm of the first kind.

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    You dont kid with girls, even if they try to live up to some imaginary standards called entp set up by society for them
    I'm trying to live up to *ESTJ* standards of reliability (*), at least on this thread! But all the while answering like an ENTP would do, of course, otherwise this thread is pretty pointless.

    (*) Yes, I'm ambitious

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamske View Post
    Strange.
    Life was suddenly much more interesting when this guy was around. When I heard he had a girlfriend, I felt despair. When I realised I *misheard* it (because of some similar sounding words in Dutch), all was well again.
    We were friends and shared some interests. I felt at ease with him, but when I was alone, I was scared I've done or said something stupid and made myself less desirable.
    The first time I realised I had actually fallen in love with him, it was because someone asked me 'if he was my lover'. No, he was just a friend - but the word connected and enhanced every thought and feeling I had about him.
    Thank you. That made it very clear for me. You are lucky to have found and married your love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamske View Post
    Don't worry. I just wanted to get this clear. Sometimes I've got this feeling I've got to battle against the stereotype image of "ENTP = cool but useless". Actually, I guess lots of people on this forum either battle against the stereotypical image of their type, or just go with the flow and use their type as excuse for their behaviour. I just want to make clear I'm of the first kind.
    I've never thought of it as "cool, but useless". More like "inconsistent, but there when it's important".

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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post
    I've never thought of it as "cool, but useless". More like "inconsistent, but there when it's important".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamske View Post
    I'm trying to live up to *ESTJ* standards of reliability (*), at least on this thread! But all the while answering like an ENTP would do, of course, otherwise this thread is pretty pointless.

    (*) Yes, I'm ambitious

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    Aw

    Well, since this thread was, I'm honored and surprised to say, inspired by the one I started, I might as well ask a question too!

    What inspires you ENTPs to do things so differently? Is it that you trust your own judgment more than you trust the system? That you get bored with the "traditional" route? Because one of my very good friends, who is an ENTP, makes a point of doing everything the opposite way of what you'd expect. (Plus, being an ESTJ, I can't relate to that sort of behavior very well... )
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    What inspires you ENTPs to do things so differently? Is it that you trust your own judgment more than you trust the system? That you get bored with the "traditional" route? Because one of my very good friends, who is an ENTP, makes a point of doing everything the opposite way of what you'd expect. (Plus, being an ESTJ, I can't relate to that sort of behavior very well... )
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    Aw

    Well, since this thread was, I'm honored and surprised to say, inspired by the one I started, I might as well ask a question too!

    What inspires you ENTPs to do things so differently? Is it that you trust your own judgment more than you trust the system? That you get bored with the "traditional" route? Because one of my very good friends, who is an ENTP, makes a point of doing everything the opposite way of what you'd expect. (Plus, being an ESTJ, I can't relate to that sort of behavior very well... )
    The important part is the goal. How you get there is ultimately irrelevant as long as it gets done, right? You don't learn anything by attacking a problem from the same angle every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    Aw

    Well, since this thread was, I'm honored and surprised to say, inspired by the one I started, I might as well ask a question too!

    What inspires you ENTPs to do things so differently? Is it that you trust your own judgment more than you trust the system? That you get bored with the "traditional" route? Because one of my very good friends, who is an ENTP, makes a point of doing everything the opposite way of what you'd expect. (Plus, being an ESTJ, I can't relate to that sort of behavior very well... )
    Hahaha, this is hilarious to me.

    I don't do things differently because honestly I don't know what different is. I don't go around comparing myself to everyone else. I have no idea what normal is because I seriously don't pay attention to most things around me. If someone asks me how to bake a cake, I would just attempt to bake one using things that logically make sense. It wouldn't even occur to me to look in a cookbook. I would try and fail and try again until I got it right. When I build Ikea furniture, I have to look at the picture of what the end result is going to be and I figure it out from there - I literally cannot follow the instructions. It's like my brain shuts down just imagining the tediousness of it all.

    I guess what I'm saying is that other people's experiences generally mean nothing to me. I have to see it for myself in order to believe it. Doing something because "that's the way it's done" literally makes no sense to me at all. I want to try it a million other ways, just to be sure it's right for me. But maybe that's just me, I don't know.

    The real question is why do SJs do everything the same?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    Aw

    Well, since this thread was, I'm honored and surprised to say, inspired by the one I started, I might as well ask a question too!

    What inspires you ENTPs to do things so differently? Is it that you trust your own judgment more than you trust the system? That you get bored with the "traditional" route? Because one of my very good friends, who is an ENTP, makes a point of doing everything the opposite way of what you'd expect. (Plus, being an ESTJ, I can't relate to that sort of behavior very well... )
    I'll try to explain this in a way that makes sense based on what I know from ESTJ's. I believe an ESTJ would get a really good feeling from accomplishing goals. It good be a small good feeling like crossing things off of a list, or a really good feeling like getting your diploma after years of study and hard work. An ESTJ feels good about accomplishing goals, and more importantly is very good at accomplishing goals, because ESTJ's tend to use the most prudent accepted method. Doing this will make achievements easier and more efficient.

    Now the ENTP perspective. An ENTP's good feeling comes from imagination rather than efficiency and reasoning. When an ENTP wants to accomplish a goal they'll imagine a way that they think it should be done, and then privately reason to themselves to figure if their brainstorm makes sense and has a chance of working. So when an ENTP wants to do anything the first place he goes is his imagination. That's why we tend to do things differently. Our first instinct is just to dream up our own way of doing it instead of finding out what the accepted way is. (And even if we do know the accepted way that is boring, because it didn't come from our imagination.) Whenever we ENTP's get something to work based on our imagination it's a really good feeling, just like the feeling an ESTJ gets from accomplishing a goal that took a lot of time and energy.
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    ^^very good post.

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