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    Quote Originally Posted by Thessaly View Post
    That's touching and all but I'm a sexual warrior and I require a worthy opponent. I want to be conquered like Rome.
    That's all well and good, but then again, you are complaining that you can't find the kind of partner you want. Maybe you're not looking for the kind of partner you need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fourplay View Post
    Actually, it's refreshing to me when a woman is comfortable about sex.

    The being a challenge part is a myth - I could care less. It's rather idiotic to believe the commonsense notion that there is something inherently suspicious because a woman moves fast. I admire people who are able to live in the moment, yet have a strongly held conviction for doing so. There has to be method in the madness.
    I dont admire people who live only for the moment, cause I am a builder an I like when a project flourishes and not when I start a billion projects and finish none. There is nothing inherently suspicious about the woman that moves fast, but there are considerations you should take for your own health. The majority of people aint playboys and tend to fall for the people they become intimate with. The same can happen here; when she grows bored of your easy-going nature to accept her every wish, she drops you and you cant so easily let go of her. That means she has a stalker more and you are unhappy. That could be worth it for a person who lives in the moment but to me its not desireable. I am a long term thinker and I am too sensible in my emotions for polygamic relationships. Of course when you have an easier time to shut out your emotions, you are free to roll without too much considerations; but I can promise you that such a lifestyle wont make you happy.

    I have learnt another thing in life. That what people talk the most about, they want the least to hear from you or they have it the least for themselves. Woman I knew from the past, who moved fast, generally tried to persuade me a lot cause I proved to be an unbendable challenge. Its like its "who I fucked" trophies for them, standing in the cupboard. For those woman, sex is nearly always about power. About excersing power over somebody else. Relationships with such people grow nasty pretty fast and invoke a lot of negative emotions. I dont think Thessaly is one of them, I am just saying it for a general assessment of the "in the moment" lifestyle and that having second thoughts sometimes aint too bad.

    When I met my isfp it was very awkward and stayed awkward until today. Dom Fi types do there thing and live their emotions and seldom pay attention to how that effects people or how it is understood by people. I needed some time before I started speaking the language of my gf. At first I always thought she said completly different things than what she actually said. I am no big fan of social conventions, but for a first contact with people they have proven to make the contact easier, but that wasnt so in the case of me and my gf. So she pretty much coated me in her being and I became part of her world, effectively leaving mine. If I then hadnt had the luck that she desired a longterm relationship like I wanted and if she had dropped me back then and moved fast on to someone else, it would have ruined me forever. And watching her list of stalkers, I know that I am not alone with this feeling.

    So what I want to say is not that a woman who moves fast wasnt desireable, on the contrary. The question always tho should be: are you up to it ?
    [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEBvftJUwDw&t=0s[/URL]

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    "A woman who moves fast" LOL

    I'll just carry on my way now
    With dreamers, pure and simple, the imagination remains a vaguely sketched inner affair. It is not embodied in any aesthetic or practical invention. Reverie is the equivalent of weak desires. Dreamers are the aboulics of the creative imagination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    I dont admire people who live only for the moment, cause I am a builder an I like when a project flourishes and not when I start a billion projects and finish none. There is nothing inherently suspicious about the woman that moves fast, but there are considerations you should take for your own health. The majority of people aint playboys and tend to fall for the people they become intimate with. The same can happen here; when she grows bored of your easy-going nature to accept her every wish, she drops you and you cant so easily let go of her. That means she has a stalker more and you are unhappy. That could be worth it for a person who lives in the moment but to me its not desireable. I am a long term thinker and I am too sensible in my emotions for polygamic relationships. Of course when you have an easier time to shut out your emotions, you are free to roll without too much considerations; but I can promise you that such a lifestyle wont make you happy.

    I have learnt another thing in life. That what people talk the most about, they want the least to hear from you or they have it the least for themselves. Woman I knew from the past, who moved fast, generally tried to persuade me a lot cause I proved to be an unbendable challenge. Its like its "who I fucked" trophies for them, standing in the cupboard. For those woman, sex is nearly always about power. About excersing power over somebody else. Relationships with such people grow nasty pretty fast and invoke a lot of negative emotions. I dont think Thessaly is one of them, I am just saying it for a general assessment of the "in the moment" lifestyle and that having second thoughts sometimes aint too bad.

    When I met my isfp it was very awkward and stayed awkward until today. Dom Fi types do there thing and live their emotions and seldom pay attention to how that effects people or how it is understood by people. I needed some time before I started speaking the language of my gf. At first I always thought she said completly different things than what she actually said. I am no big fan of social conventions, but for a first contact with people they have proven to make the contact easier, but that wasnt so in the case of me and my gf. So she pretty much coated me in her being and I became part of her world, effectively leaving mine. If I then hadnt had the luck that she desired a longterm relationship like I wanted and if she had dropped me back then and moved fast on to someone else, it would have ruined me forever. And watching her list of stalkers, I know that I am not alone with this feeling.

    So what I want to say is not that a woman who moves fast wasnt desireable, on the contrary. The question always tho should be: are you up to it ?
    My apologies, you talk complete rubbish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fourplay View Post
    My apologies, you talk complete rubbish.
    Not for that
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    Quote Originally Posted by onemoretime View Post
    That's all well and good, but then again, you are complaining that you can't find the kind of partner you want. Maybe you're not looking for the kind of partner you need.
    What I want and need are not mutually exclusive. I could never be happy in a relationship where sex wasn't a priority. Sex is the sustenance of any relationship. It is an incredible life and energy source that should be tapped into, alone or with another. I haven't got anything wrong here. I think perhaps you may be assuming I sleep with everyone and anyone upon first encounter. Truth is I rarely meet anyone I like enough to bed.
    With dreamers, pure and simple, the imagination remains a vaguely sketched inner affair. It is not embodied in any aesthetic or practical invention. Reverie is the equivalent of weak desires. Dreamers are the aboulics of the creative imagination.

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    If you guys were to be raised in a very religious family and then decided to question the religion, and investigate it to see if it's true, then how would you go about doing that? I am currently doing that right now, but everyone on this forum is saying that I'm doing it in a very Fi way, and not a Ti way? What would the Ti way look like as opposed to the Fi way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great One View Post
    If you guys were to be raised in a very religious family and then decided to question the religion, and investigate it to see if it's true, then how would you go about doing that? I am currently doing that right now, but everyone on this forum is saying that I'm doing it in a very Fi way, and not a Ti way? What would the Ti way look like as opposed to the Fi way?
    I was, and I did.

    I grew up being told X is the truth with X being all things the religion believed, there was no subjectiveness in it, when I got older I no longer attended the church I grew up in (long story) however the religious beliefs were still touted as truth in my home. It became irrelevant to my life, I would label myself theist - I believed in a god because I was told he existed - while doing nothing with it, after a while I saw with an open mind that what I was taught to be truth was chance and others were being taught something different that was truth in their religion, there were so many different faiths and all believed that they had the ultimate truth so I could question the specific beliefs of the religion I knew and question why their interpretation was right and anothers was wrong. Then I looked at what mattered to me, what I was practising (nothing), the illogical fact that so many religions exist and all claim mystical abilities to know the truth no one else does and I took on the label of agnostic, I accepted that there were too many questions that hadn't been answered, belief as I had known it was nonsensical.

    Then I looked at the alternative offered in scientific view of evolution and the big bang and frankly I was salivating with how cool the concepts were and how grand the universe was, and how limitless things were without needing to put some kind of creator into the view and found atheism so liberating. The more I looked at faith, the more things were illogical, flawed and about blind belief in the unprovable, and when I looked at science I saw logic, I saw measurable things.

    It was always about what didn't add up.

    What are you doing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasper View Post
    I was, and I did.

    I grew up being told X is the truth with X being all things the religion believed, there was no subjectiveness in it, when I got older I no longer attended the church I grew up in (long story) however the religious beliefs were still touted as truth in my home. It became irrelevant to my life, I would label myself theist - I believed in a god because I was told he existed - while doing nothing with it, after a while I saw with an open mind that what I was taught to be truth was chance and others were being taught something different that was truth in their religion, there were so many different faiths and all believed that they had the ultimate truth so I could question the specific beliefs of the religion I knew and question why their interpretation was right and anothers was wrong. Then I looked at what mattered to me, what I was practising (nothing), the illogical fact that so many religions exist and all claim mystical abilities to know the truth no one else does and I took on the label of agnostic, I accepted that there were too many questions that hadn't been answered, belief as I had known it was nonsensical.

    Then I looked at the alternative offered in scientific view of evolution and the big bang and frankly I was salivating with how cool the concepts were and how grand the universe was, and how limitless things were without needing to put some kind of creator into the view and found atheism so liberating. The more I looked at faith, the more things were illogical, flawed and about blind belief in the unprovable, and when I looked at science I saw logic, I saw measurable things.

    It was always about what didn't add up.

    What are you doing?
    Mine is sort of like that. I'm trying to review all the info I can on the subject. However, I'm wondering if more than one thing may be true at one time. For instance, I often wonder if there is a way that both Christianity and evolution could both be true.

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    “Blows dust off neglected thread.” how do you deal with the one dimensional nature of communication on forums? How do you stop your brain racing through all the possible permutations of meaning? Or does it sort of dull with enough time spent on here?

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