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    `~~Philosoflying~~` SillySapienne's Avatar
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    Default Ni + Te = WTF?!?!?!

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    For all you strange kitty cat NTJs, please try to explain how these two functions *harmoniously* work!!!

    INTJs, especially, I find to be exotically strange, rational, yet ethereal.

    How can one be rational and ethereal?!?!

    Your lot is level-headed yet, often times, somehow, believes in some pretty weird ass shit.

    I'm not hating, I'm just sincerely curious.



    Ne + Fi works quite harmoniously for me and other NFPs, I believe, but to have your primary or secondary intuition harnessed, or limited by an extroverted thinking function is just strange and counter-intuitive to me.

    How the hell does this work and manifest?!?!

    Also, Ni + Fe seems to make sense to me as well, NFJs, as cosmically strange of a species they are, well, I dunno, they are, um... consistent creatures, I guess.

    i.e. An NFJ who is highly religious or spiritual, who believes in esoteric things, well, I dunno, that makes sense to me.

    But, an NTJ who is highly religious or spiritual, and, or who believes in esoteric things, well, I dunno, that does not make sense to me.

    Sorry, in advance, if a similar thread has been made concerning this topic.

    It is just, that, of all the NTs, I absolutely find the NTJs to be the most confusing/fascinating/perplexing.

    For anyone who is game, please share your insights!

    Many thanks!!!

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    Do you have a problem understanding TeNi or just NiTe?
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    Both!!!
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    "That that is, is. That that is not, is not. Is that it? It is."

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    "Harmoniously"?

    What do I get if I explain the secret to our mental health? I haven't seen a lot of willingness to believe MBTI, so I'm guessing I get a lecture on the joy and happiness of disembodied hypersexuality?



    NTJs are easier to understand if one doesn't need them to be Si/Ne.
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    :steam:

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    Generally speaking: Ni imagines, Te constructs ways to make the imaginings real.

    In terms of mystical beliefs: Ni is symbolic, so it can adopt beliefs that function for us as candles to illuminate other concepts, the beliefs themselves may be incidental and less than literal. What's important is that they have some utility, as required by Te. Te creates the underlying framework that connects different concepts.

    *In my experience anyway. Many INTJs are more concrete and scientific than me.
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    Are you a believer, sister? Do you have the faith?

    Ni is intuition focused inward. The objects of contemplation are inside, not outside as for Ne. The contemplation is less a thing of the environment and not really a thing of the ether either, but more on the a priori, the connections between essences. In an NTJ the contemplation is structured by extraverted thinking, so seeks for the essences of the things and processes of the outer world. INTJ spends more time on essences; ENTJ spends more time on deriving processes.

    I guess.


    So what's your take on how the harmony could possibly exist?
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    Perhaps I just need help with understanding the elusive Ni process.

    Essences of what?!?!?

    Of everything?!?!?

    Essence as in truth/core!??!?
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    Essence of anything viewable as a mechanism. Anything describable as a thing or a process. Anything that can be understood as some kind of system. Even beauty.

    I guess.


    The a priori doesn't afraid of anything, except a prioris structured by different extraverted judgment functions. Those things are scary and confining. (At least until they can be understood as systems in their own right.)
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    I like to think of Te as the bulldozer function.

    So if Ni Fe makes sense to you, just imagine that... but with the bulldozer approach to the outside world? Nidoms aren't much different on the inside.
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    *Faith is the art of holding on to things your reason once accepted, despite your changing moods.
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