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    Doesn't Read Your Posts Haight's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Economica View Post
    I can't tell; is this one of those times where you enjoy my disagreement?
    Actually, all three of your observations are false.

    And I'd rather not make this about me, although I appreciate your efforts.
    "The only time I'm wrong is when I'm questioning myself."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haight View Post
    Actually, all three of your observations are false.
    Three? I count two in my first post above. Which observation did I make in my second? I thought I asked a question.

    And I'd rather not make this about me, although I appreciate your efforts.
    It's not about you, it's about me (it's always about me). If you were an INTJ, you would have known where it would hurt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Economica View Post
    My thoughts when reading this: Haight has issues with his type; he is INTP but wants to be INTJ. Your OP is therefore uncomfortable for him.

    On-topic: INTJs get personal in discussions; INTPs don't.

    Edit: ... And then I saw the post before this one. Nice try, Haight!
    1) "... he is INTP but wants to be INTJ." - I make no efforts to be anything other than what I am. Because to be frank, I love myself just the way I am.
    2) "Your OP is therefore uncomfortable for him." False. If something made me uncomfortable, I'd avoid it.
    3) "INTJs get personal in discussion; INTPs don't. " I don't see why I would take anything in this thread personally. It's just a thread.

    Now go away. You're derailing the thread.
    "The only time I'm wrong is when I'm questioning myself."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haight View Post
    I already explained. Please re-read my position.

    This is simple. You made a claim. I refuted your claim. And now you are dodging my observations and questions by ignoring what I wrote. Which is fine of course, but that's not how to learn.
    You haven't refuted anything of my creation -- I'm not sure we even disagree! You just keep accusing me of doing things I'm not doing, or accusing me of not knowing something without telling me what I don't know! You're being vague, accusive and assumptive, and I'm trying desperately to figure out what is causing it. You point your finger at "my theory", when all I'm doing is trying to clarify and understand the MBTI itself!

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    How old are the kids in this thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haight View Post
    1) "... he is INTP but wants to be INTJ." - I make no efforts to be anything other than what I am. Because to be frank, I love myself just the way I am.
    2) "Your OP is therefore uncomfortable for him." False. If something made me uncomfortable, I'd avoid it.
    3) "INTJs get personal in discussion; INTPs don't. " I don't see why I would take anything in this thread personally. It's just a thread.
    Okay, I counted the two about you as one. But in that case you didn't answer my question, at least not as unambiguously as I'd like. If it's "no" . . . then it's no, right?

    Now go away. You're derailing the thread.
    It's not like you need me telling you what to do.

    FYI: I'd stay and argue, but I have a date!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Economica View Post
    I'd stay and argue, but I have a date!
    Does it take a date to stop you arguing... Sounds a bit like sexual frustration.

    Go on, stay and argue.

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    Just when I was beginning to think this forum was friendly and productive...

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    Quote Originally Posted by VagrantFarce View Post
    Just when I was beginning to think this forum was friendly and productive...
    That's another absurd generalisation.

    Stop it. Before it becomes a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VagrantFarce View Post
    You haven't refuted anything of my creation -- I'm not sure we even disagree! You just keep accusing me of doing things I'm not doing, or accusing me of not knowing something without telling me what I don't know! You're being vague, accusive and assumptive, and I'm trying desperately to figure out what is causing it. You point your finger at "my theory", when all I'm doing is trying to clarify and understand the MBTI itself!
    Just a few last points before I go back to work:

    a/ I assumed you wrote the OP since that's what you stated in the OPs opening paragraph. The OP is an attempt to take a portion of MBTI theory and reinterpret a few pieces of it in your own words and from your own viewpoint. Therefore, it is yours.
    b/ I'm not accusing you of doing anything you haven't done. So feel free to go back read and answer the questions I already presented.
    c/ My personality is causing it. And if you could correct your theory, I'd be able to be more specific with that point.
    d/ When one takes an existing theory and adds personal observations to it . . . then it becomes "yours," or your theory.
    e/ Once again, my point is simple: Your theory ignores the powerful impact of nurture. To say that you can determine ones "Natural" personality by simply looking beyond nurture, because doing so is a simple process that can be done be reading and comprehending a few bullet points, is to not have a full understanding of how profound the influence of external forces have on the development of our personalities.

    Capiche?

    Anyway, I got to go. Thanks for the good time.
    "The only time I'm wrong is when I'm questioning myself."
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