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    Default Why I couldn't possibly be an NF

    DISCLAIMER: The title is meant to provoke a bit. It's an attention drawer and by no means a fact, or in fact a full coverage of the thread. This thread is about a realisation I had about dealing with my feelings. If you think the title is faulty. Plenty of people helpfully pointed it out already.

    I made an observation about myself yesterday which, after a bit of theorizing made me realize why I couldn't possibly be an NF.

    When I have an emotion I think about why I have it. Although I came to the realisation yesterday, this morning was a good example. (Pay attention, an INTP is rare enough to tell a personal story here). This night I dreamt about my ex, whom I got dumped by just a week ago. Over the past week I was starting to feel continuously better about it, but when I woke up this morning I was missing her very badly. I basically wanted to call her, hold her etc. But then I started to think about why I suddenly had this reaction after a week of feeling better. I knew that the neurotransmitter and hormone Oxytocin is responsible for the feeling of togetherness and attachment in people. Obviously my brain had fired a high shot of that stuff on my neurons. But why? Quite possibly because of the dream I had just a couple of minutes before. And as you might now, dreams, though usually random and occurring without a pattern, can be influenced by what was on your mind before you went to bed. And sure enough, before I went to sleep I was thinking about my ex-girlfriend.

    The realisation that everything I felt was merely a physical reaction with a logical cause and effect was soothing. I knew the reaction would end. And based on that I decided not to call that girl, at least not while under emotional influence, I wouldn't know what to say to her any way and would've probably made the physical reaction last longer. At the moment the oxytocin is probably being reabsorbed or broken down by my neurons, that's why I can sit here and write about my realisation in relative calmness and comfort.

    Thank you for reading.

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    To be honest I can see an INFJ acting like this.

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    I feel ya, I wish I had that amount of control. A night drunk with my feelings usually goes like this:

    It all starts with: YouTube - Placebo- Johnny and Mary

    Then at some point comes: YouTube - Jumped - Loituma Jumpstyle Remix

    Then until the peak is reached there is total depression: YouTube - Technoboy - Ti Sento

    And then I tend to fade away from exhaustion. On the next morning its then back to 1, with no regret or rememberance at all.
    [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEBvftJUwDw&t=0s[/URL]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocial one View Post
    To be honest I can see an INFJ acting like this.
    Well, does telling you that I'm still moulding in my head the concept of how emotions work and how you might be able to manipulate them, and the fact that I'm currently still thinking about calling her, and realizing that not being emotional has the advantage of me being able to actually talk to her sensibly change your mind?

    Actually, though it might indeed not be apparent from the story, my P is tremendous, maybe even to the point where it becomes a bad thing.

    @ Entropie, that's usually my preferred way of dealing with bad feelings as well. Overstimulus of the senses. On the other hand, in order to be actually centered and happy again first of all the right physiological state must be achieved, where the hormones and the neurotransmitters are in the right state and present in the right amount. Alcohol doesn't help with this process, it can just reduce the pain up until the right physiological state is reached.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shimmy View Post
    Well, does telling you that I'm still moulding in my head the concept of how emotions work and how you might be able to manipulate them, and the fact that I'm currently still thinking about calling her, and realizing that not being emotional has the advantage of me being able to actually talk to her sensibly change your mind?

    Actually, though it might indeed not be apparent from the story, my P is tremendous, maybe even to the point where it becomes a bad thing.
    You shouldnt legitimate yourself for what provoker said. He is just wrong or wants to be funny. A NF would access all the little parts of the big picture of a feeling and then analzyse what led to what and what influences what, but warding ones feeling off by rationalizing them is NT spirit, I fear :/
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    You're evil, Shimmy, I have to admit.

    This doesn't prove you couldn't be an NF, though. It just proves that you're very self-critical about your emotional states. And while not all NFs are, some of them do become very self-critical about such things, looking for the reasons for them.

    Obviously you are an NT based on your other posts, but this isn't proof. Just for the record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shimmy View Post
    Well, does telling you that I'm still moulding in my head the concept of how emotions work and how you might be able to manipulate them, and the fact that I'm currently still thinking about calling her, and realizing that not being emotional has the advantage of me being able to actually talk to her sensibly change your mind?

    Actually, though it might indeed not be apparent from the story, my P is tremendous, maybe even to the point where it becomes a bad thing.

    I am not questioning your type it is just that I see something that can be a hole in logic/title.

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    Care to elaborate ? Dont understand NF-insiders
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    Regarding the gf issue tho, what would be the most important thing here: I had after a 2 year break of a 4 year long relationship still emotional flashbacks, when entering certain frames of mind, stimulated by something I saw or smelled.

    It's ridicioulus how well the bodily hormone system remembers. It'ld be intresting to think about the impact things have subconciously on the brain, which I bet is far more heavier than the concious one.

    But what to do against it ? How to ward that off ? That would be an intresting question
    [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEBvftJUwDw&t=0s[/URL]

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    Shimmy, this does not necessarily mean you're not NF...just so you know
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