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    Post Intellectualization of affect.

    ...or emotions/affections.
    How do other NTs view this? How much is it part of your NT life?

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    Of what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    Of what?
    Of most things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by braziljoe View Post
    Of most things.
    For effect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGuffin View Post
    For effect?
    No, affect, as in affection. He's asking whether you intellectualize your emotions, and what role this intellectualizing of emotion plays in your life.

    I'm not an NT, but I'd say my emotions show some signs of being partially intellectualized, and I'd say it has a major impact on how I view reality and life. It makes my perspectives differ from the norm quite often, and means I'm not disgusted by all of the things that disgust others, though I am disgusted by some of them, and by some that wouldn't bother most.

    My perception is that NTs usually have F paired with S, so they either have their emotions totally intellectualized (which is rare), or they end up with completely raw, irrational, unintellectualized emotions running amok and impacting them in ways they can't make any sense of (which is more common). They often show their rational face to the world, but are often actually driven to action and choice by emotions that arise from stimuli in a completely irrational, instinctive fashion. This tends to be the nature of the Ego and the Shadow existing together in an individual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenian200 View Post
    No, affect, as in affection. He's asking whether you intellectualize your emotions, and what role this intellectualizing of emotion plays in your life.
    Has no affect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athenian200 View Post
    No, affect, as in affection. He's asking whether you intellectualize your emotions, and what role this intellectualizing of emotion plays in your life.

    I'm not an NT, but I'd say my emotions show some signs of being partially intellectualized, and I'd say it has a major impact on how I view reality and life. It makes my perspectives differ from the norm quite often, and means I'm not disgusted by all of the things that disgust others, though I am disgusted by some of them, and by some that wouldn't bother most.

    My perception is that NTs usually have F paired with S, so they either have their emotions totally intellectualized (which is rare), or they end up with completely raw, irrational, unintellectualized emotions running amok and impacting them in ways they can't make any sense of (which is more common). They often show their rational face to the world, but are actually driven by emotions that arise from complete nonsense.
    You made me think about something....maybe NTs are more like SFs in how they deal with their emotions and NFs more ST in how they deal with their logic...

    Or maybe not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sytpg View Post
    You made me think about something....maybe NTs are more like SFs in how they deal with their emotions and NFs more ST in how they deal with their logic...

    Or maybe not.
    Yeah. I think that is definitely possible. Also, SFs are more NT in processing logic, and STs are more NF at processing emotions.

    In other words, I think that your two unconscious functions can end up working together and supporting each other in a similar manner to your conscious functions. The main exception is that the second-weakest function sometimes ends up working with the strongest function, while the weakest one never does.

    So ironically, it's more likely that an N-dominant NT would be able to intellectualize their emotions to some degree and gain conscious access to them, while a T-dominant NT can't do so, because the emotions are too far outside conscious control due to the conscious mind being ruled by logic. In other words, in the areas where their F comes into play, the conscious mind doesn't get to make any decisions. They can only maintain conscious control by making decisions logically rather than based on values. It's a strong example of the idea that, "The more you tighten your grip, the more sand slips between your fingers."

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    I thought all NTs generally deal with their emotions as separate objects rather than identifying with them.

    You detach from them and analyze them, turning them around in your hands and studying them, so that you can figure out what to do about them.

    Other people identify with their emotions and can't separate from them in that way, they self-identity, and to attack or criticize their emotions is to criticize them.
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